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re: On Mounjaro for two months, my take ****New Update pg 11 w photo****

Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:10 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:10 am to
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What about people that don’t have the drive or motivation for diet and exercise?

They will simply revert back to being obese slobs when the monjaro runs out or they stop using it.
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I would assume a weight loss medication is better than continued obesity.

Anything is better than obesity but you can get there without using drugs prescribed/intended for other issues.
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Hopefully the medication can spark new dedication to a healthy lifestyle where the brain couldn’t.


I don't think taking these drugs is sustainable long term we are already seeing perplexing side effects and issues from some (not all) users some that are permanent that are not good.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:27 am to
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I don't think taking these drugs is sustainable long term we are already seeing perplexing side effects and issues from some (not all) users some that are permanent that are not good.


why are you making stuff up or talking about the 0.01%?

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Anything is better than obesity but you can get there without using drugs prescribed/intended for other issues.


you can but one thing i have learned over the years is, everyone is not you nor I. many hate exercise or have negative thoughts about it for different reasons. Also many have what is referred to as food noise

one thing i have noticed, guys and females that tend to be more emotional tend to have problems sticking to the any time of regiment and staying discplined.

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They will simply revert back to being obese slobs when the monjaro runs out or they stop using it.


most people should slowly go down to prolly 1/2 the lowest dose and stay on that

it has a ton of health benefits and the side effects like the gastro issues effect a very very small portion of users. we have a decade+ of data from those that have been on that are diabetic and we have almost 3+ decades of studying glp-1 and its effects


as far as the question on muscle loss

1) glp-1 is anticatabolic in a vacuum
2) muscle loss happens anytime someone is not resistance training and is in a steep deficit
3) the medicine tends to go to people that do not know how to count calories and macros. Its very very very very important that one hit minimum of 1g protein per lbs of lean muscle on this and thats a minimum. also extremely important to lift progressively over time.

there are studies showing that with lifestyle interventions...i.e. counting macros, prioritizing protein and progressive resistance training that muscle loss is less than those doing the same without the
medicine

and yall should stop fear-mongering, shite is ridiculous. of course some people are going to get side effects. happens with any medicine. Some of the things people say shows a complete lack of understanding of how the drugs work.



and yes it can be used by bodybuilders in a cut. main thing is to use minimum effective dosing, usually much smaller than what is prescribed. the other thing is, its best used in conjunction with peptides so you maintain skin elasticity mainly ghrh(tesamorlin then cjc1295 no dac), ghrp(hex then ipamorelin), bpc, and GHK-Cu.

OP: why are you in such a hurry to raise the dose if you are getting results with the dose you are on?
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