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re: 'The Fantastic Four’ Casting News: Ralph Ineson is Galactus

Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:08 pm to
You know the basic story.

* which is more than current day Hollywood can say.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:21 pm to
i’ve read the book so i know the full story, but a movie adaptation is a movie adaptation of a book.

I cant talk about how good or bad it is without seeing it.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:42 pm to
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I cant talk about how good or bad it is without seeing it.


Except you can. Just a sample of movies and shows I did not see which objectively were trash.

Captain marvel. The marvels. Rings of power. Birds of prey. Madam Web. Indiana Jones five.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49333 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 1:04 pm to
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Just a sample of movies and shows I did not see which objectively were trash.

You can’t say something is objectively bad if you never saw it also saying a movie is objectively bad is a pretty asinine statement unless it’s The Room or Birdemic levels of shite. You’re literally an NPC
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 1:42 pm to
I just did. Movies & shows getting universally panned means exactly that.

Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37401 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

White Richard Reed
White Sue Storm
White Johnny Storm
White Jewish Ben Grimm

Disney is so subversive.



Actually:

Chilean Reed Richards
British Sue Storm
American Johnny Storm
Jewish Ben Grimm

That's pretty diverse and most people are ok with it.

It is somewhat subversive, but not overtly so.

What is your definition of diversity? Only skin color matters? What metrics are we aiming for here?

When does the destruction of characters end? Is there an end?
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Movies & shows getting universally panned

Captain Marvel 78% critic rating and 45% fan (with review bombing)

The Marvels 62% critic rating and 82% fan rating

Birds of Prey 78% critic rating and 79% fan rating

Indiana Jones 70% critic rating and 87% fan rating

The only movie you listed that had terrible ratings is Madame Web so liked I said you’re an NPC
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:21 pm to
minus 1 or 2, every Marvel movie has sucked since End Game.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6717 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:23 pm to
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Captain Marvel 78% critic rating and 45% fan (with review bombing)

The Marvels 62% critic rating and 82% fan rating

Birds of Prey 78% critic rating and 79% fan rating

Indiana Jones 70% critic rating and 87% fan rating

The only movie you listed that had terrible ratings is Madame Web so liked I said you’re an NPC


pretty sure they all lost money....hmmmmmmm

Pull the ticket sales.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49333 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:28 pm to
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pretty sure they all lost money....hmmmmmmm

Plenty of good movies didn’t do well at the box office, using the box office as a metric as how good a movie is, is retarded. Also Captain Marvel made over a billion
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6717 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Plenty of good movies didn’t do well at the box office, using the box office as a metric as how good a movie is, is retarded. Also Captain Marvel made over a billion


This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50675 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:58 pm to
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Captain Marvel made over a billion


This is why the fan reviews are so low for this one. Lots of people were tricked into thinking it would be relevant to Endgame just like lots of people were tricked into thinking Black Panther would be relevant to Infinity War.

The box office take for the Marvels sequel tells the tale.

Black Panther was actually a decent movie (unlike Captain Marvel, which sucked), and Chadwick Boseman's death created interest in how they would handle that, so it wasn't surprising for that sequel to do ok at the box office. If they try to do another one it won't be nearly as successful because Black Panther 2 was awful. Especially the shoehorning of Ironheart and the ridiculous Mexican Namor.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49333 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 3:07 pm to
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This is why the fan reviews are so low for this one.

You mean the score that got review bombed so hard it caused RT to change its fan reviews to verified? Wasn’t it like thousands of one stars before the movie came out?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49333 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Black Panther 2 was awful. Especially the shoehorning of Ironheart and the ridiculous Mexican Namor.

Oh cool more movies you didn’t watch but get told to hate
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50675 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:35 pm to
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You mean the score that got review bombed so hard it caused RT to change its fan reviews to verified? Wasn’t it like thousands of one stars before the movie came out?


Let me be sure if I'm understanding your argument: they "fixed" the review system because they felt the fan reviews were fake, but the low fan score is still fake?

That's what you're going with?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50675 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:36 pm to
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Oh cool more movies you didn’t watch but get told to hate


Who told you I didn't watch it?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25325 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Captain Marvel 78% critic rating and 45% fan (with review bombing)


There was no review bombing.

quote:

The Marvels 62% critic rating and 82% fan rating


Lost money. The movie was trash. It made no sense. They swapped a male character just so they could have girl boss on girl boss action. Lost massively at the box office.

quote:

*Birds of Prey 78% critic rating and 79% fan rating



Barely made its money back. If we're to believe the numbers.


quote:

Indiana Jones 70% critic rating and 87% fan rating



Lost 100+ million. Possibly as much as 150 million.


quote:

The only movie you listed that had terrible ratings is Madame Web so liked I said you’re an NPC


That doesn't even make sense. Captain Marvel had a terrible fan rating, but you won't count that? Doesn't fit the narrative? All these movies lost or barely made any money, save for Captain Marvel. And the only reason that did well was because it was presented as a primer for what would happen in End Game. Possibly the single best release position in all of cinema history.

And this was a tiny sample. Doesn't include Rings of Power, or ANYTHING on D + , The Wicher, or a dozen other shows/movies at the very least.


*Saw and liked both Suicide Squad & The Suicide Squad. Really liked Harley Quinn in both.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66813 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 6:29 pm to
you can’t use “lost money”
as proof a movie is bad when Captain Marvel made a billion fricking dollars.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25325 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

you can’t use “lost money”
as proof a movie is bad when Captain Marvel made a billion fricking dollars.





100% I can! And I just did! If Captain Marvel was truly as popular as we're led to believe, then why did The Marvels fail so massively?

Was it because Brie Larson is an insufferable count?
Or that Ms. Marvel was the least seen series in all the MCU? Or that 'Proton' or whatever Black Girl Magic's name is this version was nothing but a side character on another mediocre D+ show?

I can feel the cope seething inside you.
Posted by s0tiger
Member since May 2008
680 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 7:05 pm to
What? Captain Marvel absolutely benefited from leading into one of the biggest culminations in movie history. The money was made on a false promise.

The others have great reviews from the few they appeal to, but obviously didn't resonate with much of society.

If they were good people would have gone. Even if fatigue was real, word of mouth would have resulted in a different box office outcome.
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