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re: How do y’all feel about digital immortality?
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:07 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:07 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
What if I get hacked and become an ugly emoji?
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:21 pm to Dadren
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What would you experience for 500 years on some hard drive? Would it be like being inside of a box?
If your body/organs perished early than expected here on earth, there’s plenty that would still want to see what their grandchildren end up looking like.
Maybe your first born grandson ends up being a stud pitcher in baseball, you’d want to track his progress to the pros.
You could still watch games, “attend birthday parties, be there for Christmas, see who wins the next election, etc etc
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:26 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
shite I thought you wrote digital immorality. Like porn and stuff.
Big difference that “t” makes.
Big difference that “t” makes.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:26 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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Is it something you’d sign-up for if it’s available in your lifetime?
It's rough, I have honestly thought it is crazy my dad and mom may be the last of our family to not get uploaded. That being said, there's so much control over people that will get uploaded, it's hard not seeing that getting abused.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:31 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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If your body/organs perished early than expected here on earth, there’s plenty that would still want to see what their grandchildren end up looking like.
Maybe your first born grandson ends up being a stud pitcher in baseball, you’d want to track his progress to the pros.
You could still watch games, “attend birthday parties, be there for Christmas, see who wins the next election, etc etc
What I'm saying is, what’s happening during the time you’re sitting on some hard drive waiting for your transfer to a physical avatar, and what if that takes decades, or centuries?
You’re not going to experience any of those wonderful things…but what if you’re still aware and experiencing the passage of time like you always have inside this little hard drive. Except, you don’t have a body that can see or feel. You’d just be “kind of there”, right? Basically sitting in a dark room and not feeling anything.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:16 pm to Dadren
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You’re just there, in the dark, not feeling anything, just aware.
Oh... Like my first marriage.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:21 pm to James11111
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that Black Mirror episode
Came to post this.
Altered Carbon also has a similar setup, but consciousness it passed from old to new bodies.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:25 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
No. Thank you. People are meant to die.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:30 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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digital immortality
Pretty sure Jamiroquai said the future’s made of digital immortality.
Alright, no he didn’t… but now you’re singing a made-up song in your head.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:32 pm to Dadren
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Would it be like being inside of a box?
Usually warm and slippery.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:38 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Western folks' inability to deal with their own mortality is, I reckon, the root of a good deal of the problems we face. Attempts to uproot the very nature of conscious existence are not to be fricked with.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:42 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Just plug my brain into a terminator style robot. Same meat source. Same me.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:48 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
If this is an Altered Carbon scenario, hard pass. I don't want to live forever.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:55 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
frick that. I’m meeting God someday.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:59 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I wouldn’t do it. It’s better to say good bye to your love ones, turn off the switch and have a dreamless sleep forever.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:21 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
We already live in a computer program.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:21 pm to KennabraTiger
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I’m meeting God someday.
I'd be good with G-d giving me a job after I die. You want me to do hang around some Spanish family? Got it. I don't want to stop working.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:27 pm to James11111
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So, just like that Black Mirror episode with the old lesbians?
More like the Black Mirror episode White Christmas with Jon Hamm
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:33 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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Is it something you’d sign-up for if it’s available in your lifetime?
Hell no. I wouldn't want physical or digital immortality.
But there's problems with the whole concept. For one, how do we define "self" in the first place? What makes you you or me me? Does uploading my memories really make a computer "me?"
Then we must get into the whole free will vs. determinism debate. Is all neuronal activity pre-determined? If so, this would change once the brain is "uploaded" to the computer. This means, by definition, it is no longer "me." If we do believe in free will, then one could still make the argument that the uploaded data is "me."
Or does it even matter? If the computer can pass the Turing test and convince family members that it is me, then is that good enough? If it isn't "me" but can convince people who know me that it is me, then I would sign up for it. This way I could haunt my exes till eternity.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:36 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I’ve already seen Altered Carbon. Give me the true death.
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