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re: How do y’all feel about digital immortality?

Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:07 pm to
What if I get hacked and become an ugly emoji?
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:21 pm to
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What would you experience for 500 years on some hard drive? Would it be like being inside of a box?

If your body/organs perished early than expected here on earth, there’s plenty that would still want to see what their grandchildren end up looking like.

Maybe your first born grandson ends up being a stud pitcher in baseball, you’d want to track his progress to the pros.

You could still watch games, “attend birthday parties, be there for Christmas, see who wins the next election, etc etc
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28759 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:26 pm to
shite I thought you wrote digital immorality. Like porn and stuff.
Big difference that “t” makes.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71584 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Is it something you’d sign-up for if it’s available in your lifetime?


It's rough, I have honestly thought it is crazy my dad and mom may be the last of our family to not get uploaded. That being said, there's so much control over people that will get uploaded, it's hard not seeing that getting abused.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:31 pm to
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If your body/organs perished early than expected here on earth, there’s plenty that would still want to see what their grandchildren end up looking like.

Maybe your first born grandson ends up being a stud pitcher in baseball, you’d want to track his progress to the pros.

You could still watch games, “attend birthday parties, be there for Christmas, see who wins the next election, etc etc


What I'm saying is, what’s happening during the time you’re sitting on some hard drive waiting for your transfer to a physical avatar, and what if that takes decades, or centuries?

You’re not going to experience any of those wonderful things…but what if you’re still aware and experiencing the passage of time like you always have inside this little hard drive. Except, you don’t have a body that can see or feel. You’d just be “kind of there”, right? Basically sitting in a dark room and not feeling anything.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27522 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:16 pm to
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You’re just there, in the dark, not feeling anything, just aware.


Oh... Like my first marriage.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4723 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:21 pm to
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that Black Mirror episode

Came to post this.

Altered Carbon also has a similar setup, but consciousness it passed from old to new bodies.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14836 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:25 pm to
No. Thank you. People are meant to die.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12998 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:30 pm to
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digital immortality


Pretty sure Jamiroquai said the future’s made of digital immortality.

Alright, no he didn’t… but now you’re singing a made-up song in your head.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:32 pm to
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Would it be like being inside of a box?



Usually warm and slippery.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55522 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:38 pm to
Western folks' inability to deal with their own mortality is, I reckon, the root of a good deal of the problems we face. Attempts to uproot the very nature of conscious existence are not to be fricked with.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Member since Aug 2011
12453 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:42 pm to
Just plug my brain into a terminator style robot. Same meat source. Same me.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80776 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:48 pm to
If this is an Altered Carbon scenario, hard pass. I don't want to live forever.
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
6555 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:55 pm to
frick that. I’m meeting God someday.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16957 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:59 pm to
I wouldn’t do it. It’s better to say good bye to your love ones, turn off the switch and have a dreamless sleep forever.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14531 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:21 pm to
We already live in a computer program.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6559 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:21 pm to
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I’m meeting God someday.



I'd be good with G-d giving me a job after I die. You want me to do hang around some Spanish family? Got it. I don't want to stop working.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11808 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:27 pm to
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So, just like that Black Mirror episode with the old lesbians?


More like the Black Mirror episode White Christmas with Jon Hamm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17070 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:33 pm to
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Is it something you’d sign-up for if it’s available in your lifetime?


Hell no. I wouldn't want physical or digital immortality.

But there's problems with the whole concept. For one, how do we define "self" in the first place? What makes you you or me me? Does uploading my memories really make a computer "me?"

Then we must get into the whole free will vs. determinism debate. Is all neuronal activity pre-determined? If so, this would change once the brain is "uploaded" to the computer. This means, by definition, it is no longer "me." If we do believe in free will, then one could still make the argument that the uploaded data is "me."

Or does it even matter? If the computer can pass the Turing test and convince family members that it is me, then is that good enough? If it isn't "me" but can convince people who know me that it is me, then I would sign up for it. This way I could haunt my exes till eternity.
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
1352 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:36 pm to
I’ve already seen Altered Carbon. Give me the true death.
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