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re: AI's next victim: Mgmt Consulting - McKinsey offering staff 9 months full pay to leave
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:57 am to rickgrimes
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:57 am to rickgrimes
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This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:57 am to GREENHEAD22
Pete Bootygeg worked at McKinsey if that tells us anything. Smart dude but grifter none the less.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:01 am to lsuconnman
The beef with them is that they repackage the same rape-and-pillage approach to everything but bill it as revolutionary business transformation.
1- reorganize
2- "right size" the business (lay off a shitload)
3- cut expenses EVERYWHERE
4- attempt to add back the profitable parts of the business that you fricked up
1- reorganize
2- "right size" the business (lay off a shitload)
3- cut expenses EVERYWHERE
4- attempt to add back the profitable parts of the business that you fricked up
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:32 am to Saunson69
Sounds like a professional golfer. Or professional athlete?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:41 am to Saunson69
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Not saying an LSU student can't be smarter than an Ivy leaguer.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:53 am to lsusa
quote:Bob Slydell wants a word with you.
The two Bobs aren’t going to like this.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:09 am to Saunson69
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Someone with a 700 on the GMAT whose been in an industry for 8 years will know how to tackle a problem better than someone with a 760 on the GMAT who was just introduced to the industry yesterday
You can’t easily relate test scores and competence. I know plenty of people who went to Nichols or SLU who run circles around others who went to prestigious universities.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:00 am to Saunson69
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Their employees really are the best of the best. The ones that come from top 5 MBAs are all 34-36 ACTers, 730+ GMAT, Ivy League,
Therein lies the problem.
They send a bunch of 23 year-old MBA types who are very smart academically, but have absolutely no idea about the real world. They apply some textbook principal which has nothing to do with reality and act surprised when they get different results.
By then, these little consultants are long gone, and no one is ever held accountable retroactively.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:22 am to rickgrimes
Not a fan of McKinsey’s business model. It’s either a) a CEO and team who don’t know their screwed up business b) a CEO who wants to “right size” the business and wants analytics to justify his already made conclusions or c) a private company founder getting close to retirement without a family heir to run the business and wants to cash out.
GS is more on the financing side and if you don’t believe they are masters of the universe just ask them, they’ll confirm. Harvard MBA posers of the highest order. Don’t know how much they paid for their offices in Santa Monica or San Francisco but they seem to be gold plated. It’s unreal.
My company’s BD group is more than capable to analyze the financial validity of making an acquisition. The integration side is where we need help.
For that the KPMG Houston consulting group is top notch, guidance and execution for things we don’t have the internal expertise to handle well. Not cheap but worthwhile and do add value.
After internal legal has had their pass, send it to Baker Botts to wrap up and we’re done.
McKinsey IMO is highly overrated.
GS is more on the financing side and if you don’t believe they are masters of the universe just ask them, they’ll confirm. Harvard MBA posers of the highest order. Don’t know how much they paid for their offices in Santa Monica or San Francisco but they seem to be gold plated. It’s unreal.
My company’s BD group is more than capable to analyze the financial validity of making an acquisition. The integration side is where we need help.
For that the KPMG Houston consulting group is top notch, guidance and execution for things we don’t have the internal expertise to handle well. Not cheap but worthwhile and do add value.
After internal legal has had their pass, send it to Baker Botts to wrap up and we’re done.
McKinsey IMO is highly overrated.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:01 am to patnuh
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You can’t easily relate test scores and competence. I know plenty of people who went to Nichols or SLU who run circles around others who went to prestigious universities
I honestly hate this argument. There are outliers in everything in life. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Josh Allen went to Wyoming but that doesn't mean they have a better program than LSU. There are always highly talented people that defy the stats. However, higher test scores are directly correlated to intelligence and also higher earnings. These numbers are very easy to look up. There's a reason the wealthiest companies in the world are recruiting from target schools and not LSU. However, the value of an Ivy League education isn't what it used to be since they are letting in DEI students that are under qualified due to the recent switch to test optional admission.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:06 am to Saunson69
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You haven't a clue what you're talking about. They are certainly the best and brightest and people are just salty here that someone is better than them. They're all people who got 34+ on ACTs, went to top 20 schools, many founded very successful startups, got 730+ GMAT. I'd like to see you try to get a 34+ on ACT or 730+ GMAT. They are without a doubt tenfold smarter and more successful than your average state school grad. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true.
Have to agree here. Take an average LSU student vs an average Ivy League student and the comparison is not particularly close. With that being said, that doesn't mean they should be giving suggestions to Fortune 500 companies at 23 years old with no real world experience. As mentioned previously, consulting companies are just a really expensive insurance policy. The value is in the name brand name and the service itself is pretty useless.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:09 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Do you work for McK?
No, but I was recruited there and realized how useless their service really is. McK is also the most libbed out of the big 3 and its not particularly close. Everyone I talked to there was a complete freak that just wanted to talk about their LGBTQ initiatives.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:56 am to TigahsOnTop
I’m on a project here in Houston with the team from McK, some days they walk into the office and it looks as if they hadn’t slept the night before
I don’t know if they have some secret society, skull and crossbones oath that they don’t talk about what goes on behind closed doors, but it seems they work their people to death
I don’t know if they have some secret society, skull and crossbones oath that they don’t talk about what goes on behind closed doors, but it seems they work their people to death
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:38 am to TigahsOnTop
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:31 am to rickgrimes
Aren't these the same jackasses that have had a number of "diversity is good for business/wages" studies debunked recently?
I believe they are.
I believe they are.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:37 am to udtiger
There's countless articles out there about all manner of frickery with McKinsey.
Like I said earlier, it's easy.
1) "reorganize" - cut people and programs. Look, cash on hand goes up!
2) "right size" - cut more people and programs. Cash goes up again! This is great!
3) cut expenses everywhere - cash still going up! Best decision ever!
4) don't need McKinsey anymore, we accomplished our goals!
5) why are all our customers pissed off?
Like I said earlier, it's easy.
1) "reorganize" - cut people and programs. Look, cash on hand goes up!
2) "right size" - cut more people and programs. Cash goes up again! This is great!
3) cut expenses everywhere - cash still going up! Best decision ever!
4) don't need McKinsey anymore, we accomplished our goals!
5) why are all our customers pissed off?
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:01 pm to dewster
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There are exceptions: Former Mckinsey Partner Sentenced To 24 Months In Prison For Insider Trading Scheme - this guy googled the name of a former B4 consulting partner that was pinched for insider trading years before....and he did this the day after his trade from his work laptop while consulting for Goldman.
I'm disappointed that you failed to mention that the consultant's name is Puneet Dikshit
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