Great. That's what you think. If the Saints also think that, they should probably draft him. Historically, though, it's a bigger risk (see Pitts, Fant, Ebron, Hockensen, OJ Howard). That's the last 4 TE taken before pick 20, their teams thought they were safer picks too. Not all horrible, but no stars there, and none of them elevated their team.

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Posted by GynoSandberg

Member since Jan 2006

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Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:39 pm to Handsome Pete

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[quote]What are you talking about? What other TEs?

I was mistaken, it was another poster. He had listed 4 other TEs saying they would out produce Bowers

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see Pitts, Fant, Ebron, Hockensen, OJ Howard).

What do they mean with regards to Bowers’ and his talent?

It should make ya think twice when Bowers name routinely pops up with elite WRs. It’s not often the tape, stats/data, athletic testing all jive. It’s very hard to ignore for me

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As an 18-year-old true freshman, TE Brock Bowers averaged a team-high 58.8 YPG. That was ____ more than that of his following teammates:

1.7X that of WR Jermaine Burton (proj. R3)
2.0X that of WR Ladd McConkey (proj. R2)
2.1X that of WR Adonai Mitchell (proj. R1)

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Receiving Yards Before 21st Birthday
+ Top-45 players on @dpbrugler 's Big Board

1. Malik Nabers (3,003)
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2. Brock Bowers (2,538)
3. Troy Franklin (2,483)
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4. Rome Odunze (1,632)
5. Keon Coleman (1,506)
6. Marvin Harrison Jr. (1,402)
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7. Brian Thomas Jr. (1,257)
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8. Ladd McConkey (954)
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10. Roman Wilson (542)
11. Adonai Mitchell (495)

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2024 WR Class (plus Brock Bowers) by YPRR
+ Power 5-only, min. 175 routes

Age 18 Season

1. Brock Bowers (3.01)
2. Xavier Worthy (2.61)
3. Malik Nabers (1.95)
4. Brian Thomas Jr. (1.40)

Age 19 Season

1. Malik Nabers (2.44)
2. Brock Bowers (2.37)
3. Troy Franklin (2.34)
4. Keon Coleman (2.07)

Age 20 Season

1. Malik Nabers (3.64)
2. Troy Franklin (3.32)
3. Marvin Harrison Jr. (3.18)
4. Brock Bowers (2.65)

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Power Five YPT leaders on non-screen passes since 2015 (150+ tgts)

CeeDee Lamb: 14.3
DeVonta Smith: 14.0
Ja’Marr Chase: 13.5
Brock Bowers: 13.0
Jerry Jeudy: 12.7
Jermaine Burton: 12.6

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College prospects to average 7.5+ YAC/Reception, 60+ Rec YPG and a 70% catch rate throughout college since 2015 (min 170 rec)

Malachi Corley*
Brock Bowers*
DeVonta Smith
Rondale Moore
CeeDee Lamb
AJ Brown

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Posted by Townedrunkard

Member since Jan 2019

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Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:51 am to Handsome Pete

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Historically, though, it's a bigger risk (see Pitts, Fant, Ebron, Hockensen

Umm, Hockenson was the number one te in the league before he got hurt this year. May want to leave him out your argument.

I still think Pitts is being underutilized big time, along with horrible qb play. And he has a 1k yard season at least. OJ Howard should have never been a 1st round pick. He didn’t have the game tape, just the measurables.

This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 10:56 am

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Posted by Chalkywhite84

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Member since Dec 2016

27410 posts

Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:31 pm to Handsome Pete

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Historically, though, it's a bigger risk (see Pitts, Fant, Ebron, Hockensen, OJ Howard). That's the last 4 TE taken before pick 20, their teams thought they were safer picks too. Not all horrible, but no stars there, and none of them elevated their team.

Smith.

I agree that historically it's a bigger risk to take a tight end over a tackle.

Problem is Bowers isn't just any tight end. He is doing things that have never been done. He hasn't just done them for 1 year either. Bowers has been elite for 3 years straight.

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