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re: Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed - container ship wrecked into it

Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:21 am to
Posted by FleurDeLonestar
The Dirty HOU
Member since Mar 2011
6171 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:21 am to
Not of that size. It’d be stupid expensive for many reasons to be American flagged. Your “biggest” American flag ships other than military would be your offshore rig movers, and a handful of tankers.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11325 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:22 am to
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What type of insurance limits do those big cargo vessels have to have?


Finally. Welcome to my office.

Let me tell you kids all about the world of commercial P&I insurance. My portion of the world is all a buzz this morning.

This was operated by Maersk. Their coverage is through a $3bn reinsurance pool through international group of P&I clubs.

Too early to say exactly how high the damages will go.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 9:13 am
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
838 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:23 am to
Unfortunately, immediately we need to put up bumpers or pylons to protect bridge supports on every span that see's ship traffic. You can't count on people being good at their craft or not stoned out of their mind on Xanax. Sorry but the world now has to be child proofed to the lowest common denominator to protect innocents.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29320 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:26 am to
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:26 am to
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I hope some workers survived but it seems crazy that anyone could survive this. If the crew had reported propulsion failure early enough I wonder how much time it would've taken to alert a road crew working there.


What’s nuts is that the whole thing just went straight down. No sections still standing, no pillars, nothing. I would’ve thought something would stayed upright.

ETA I just saw in the still photo the other pillars are still there.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 7:31 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85268 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:28 am to
Seems like it only happens during an issue though. It’s typically mixed with some steam and is whiter. According to the google machine.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2148 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:28 am to
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Unfortunately, immediately we need to put up bumpers or pylons to protect bridge supports on every span that see's ship traffic. You can't count on people being good at their craft or not stoned out of their mind on Xanax. Sorry but the world now has to be child proofed to the lowest common denominator to protect innocents.


I understand the sentiment but with a ship that size, you are going to need a lot more than bumpers and pylons.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425080 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:29 am to
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Their coverage is through a $3bn reinsurance pool through international group of P&I clubs.


Tight butthole day today
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2286 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:30 am to
If you go back you can see that the ship lost power all the light go out.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26035 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:31 am to
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Limitation of Liability Act of 1851


Doesn't prior knowledge sidestep that? I would think it would ba hard not to find something that could be considered enough prior knowledge to avoid a dismissal of a suit on any commercial vessel more than a couple of years old.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30704 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:32 am to
I have an unnatural fear of bridges. I have to cross the MS and TN rivers daily each week for work.

This is terrifying for me.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10591 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:33 am to
Exactly

Same for Tampa, Miami, parts of Houston , some in Louisiana, Seattle, and plenty of others use escotlrt tugs

It’s been a lobbying effort for years . Pilots have lobbied to have their own tugs to be used for this very purpose.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10591 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:34 am to
Just just hope that the pilots onboard are diverse, equitable and inclusive
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54824 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:34 am to
Damn that ship had a shite ton of cargo on it also. If it lost power anything in its way was getting taken out.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76719 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:36 am to
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Yes I thought about making this joke, but a bunch of people just died here


They’re not reading this thread
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:36 am to
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If you go back you can see that the ship lost power all the light go out.


Yeah you can see the ship go black, however that still doesn’t rule out sabotage or terrorism.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10591 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:36 am to
Not sure those containers were full heading back to Singapore
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64869 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:38 am to
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terrorism


Yes. Terrorism. Which typically happens at the time of day where the least amount of people are risked to be killed.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:38 am to
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Yikes! I hope they are able to rescue everyone who went into the water.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58411 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:39 am to
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Just just hope that the pilots onboard are diverse, equitable and inclusive


Thanks for the low IQ contribution to this thread
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