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re: NFL Free Agency: Kirk Cousins to the Falcons. Justin Fields to the Steelers

Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by tigerfan84
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:29 pm to
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Former Browns QB and NFL Comeback Player of the Year winner Joe Flacco reached agreement with the Indianapolis Colts, per sources. It’s a one-year deal worth up to $8.7 million, including $4.5 million guaranteed. Flacco to Indy.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:34 pm to
Bengals losing everyone
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:36 pm to
Big Joe coming for Anthony Richardson’s job.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:46 pm to
Williams demanded a trade last year when they signed Orlando brown jr so I don’t think there was ever much of a chance of retaining him to be fair. I’m sure Arizona gave him assurances he would start at left tackle and they released humpries
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Tom Pelissero

Plot twist! Veteran linebacker Eric Kendricks is now expected to sign with the #Cowboys, per sources.

The #49ers made a strong offer. But Kendricks is opting to reunite with Mike Zimmer, who gets an experienced LB to help run his defense.
Posted by tigerfan84
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:58 pm to
Looks like they’re going to get Sheldon Rankins
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:00 pm to
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The #Titans are signing #Jaguars star WR Calvin Ridley. The 29-year old Ridley gets a 4-year, $92M deal with $50M fully guaranteed

Holy shite!
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:01 pm to
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Bengals losing everyone
yeah, the guy who led the NFL in sacks given up in 2022. I'm sure they are gonna be heart broken.
Posted by bcoop199
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:16 pm to
Ridley is a good WR but not worth that much especially with a good WR draft.
Posted by tigerfan84
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:56 pm to
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he #Bengals just now agreed to terms on a two-year, $26 million deal with DT Sheldon Rankins, sources say. Another nice payday for the former first-round pick, who heads to Cincinnati to join Lou Anarumo’s defense after recording six sacks last season for the #Texans.
Posted by nosaj
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:08 pm to
Jonah Williams is garbage. That’s addition by subtraction for the Bengals.
Posted by tWildcat
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:12 pm to
Not upset about losing Williams FWIW
Posted by Dairy Sanders
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:27 pm to
Paying Ridley $23 million being SOP while good-elite RBs have to form their own damn sub union to get paid less than half that a year is absurd.

WR are like the third least valuable offensive/defensive players in the league behind fullbacks and off ball linebackers. You don’t win Super Bowls paying a WR 10-16% of your cap space. It’s just asinine. Only two positions are worth that level of cap commitment in the NFL: QB and OT.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:28 pm to
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Only two positions are worth that level of cap commitment in the NFL: QB and OT.


Pass rusher, especially a great interior pass rusher, definitely belongs in this category.

WRs are infinitely more valuable than RBs though. You can't out-athlete an entire front seven because they're too athletic at this level. That's why drafting one, say 8th overall (dumbass Falcons), is absolutely retarded. An elite WR who can consistently beat the man lined up across from him opens up a lot more of an offense than a RB does.

Modern NFL running games are solely reliant on scheme and OL play and have very little to do with the skill of the runner himself. Big plays come on the perimeter, not out of the backfield.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Dairy Sanders
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:45 pm to
Ehhh. There may be 2-3 guys in the league at a time that you would remotely consider for that but even then, naw. You can scheme pressure if you have enough B/B+ level pass rushers. Those guys get rotated in and out so much that I wouldn’t do it unless I knew a guy was going to be out there for at least 90% of a defense’s snaps.

Corners are more valuable to me, particularly those who are great in man coverage. They are on the field at least 95% of snaps and they can wipe out or at least make a team’s number one WR ineffective. If you can bottle up a receiver for 3+ seconds each snap then you are basically guaranteeing someone on your D Line will beat their blocker. Plus pass rushing can come from anywhere and is starting to become reliant on those old school big nose tackles who can occupy two blockers again.

If you have one elite pass rusher and mediocre guys upfront around him, you can scheme him into irrelevancy. If you have an elite corner who can wipe out a team’s number one receiver, you change their whole game plan.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:46 pm to
Corners can't cover guys forever. You could have Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis on the edge and still give up 300 passing yards a game if you can't get a pass rush.

I'm a huge believer in prioritizing linemen over skill players. Alex Mack is the best free agent signing the Falcons have ever made, for example.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Dairy Sanders
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:56 pm to
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Modern NFL running games are solely reliant on scheme and OL play and have very little to do with the skill of the runner himself. Big plays come on the perimeter, not out of the backfield.


Completely false. Elite rbs can carry an offense. We’ve seen guys like Henry and McCaffrey completely change their teams offensive fortunes and be the catalyst for their offenses.

How many WR can say the same? Maybe Tyreek Hill because of his elite speed/COD. Deebo had that kind of year in 2021. Before that? Only Moss and Megatron this millennium would be considered and Moss was meh in Oakland and Megatron is one of the Mount Rushmore NFL freak athlete guys.

RBs aren’t that important if you have one of the 2-3 best QBs in the league, but if you don’t, you better have one you can depend on.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:03 pm to
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Elite rbs can carry an offense. We’ve seen guys like Henry and McCaffrey completely change their teams offensive fortunes and be the catalyst for their offenses.



Derrick Henry missed 9 games in 2021 due to injury. In those 9 games, the Titans went 6-3 and averaged 140 rushing yards per game. Their production did not drop off one bit. Know why? Because their very good OL was healthy and they had the same running scheme.

Last year (2022 season), Kansas City made their Super Bowl run with 7th round pick Isiah Pacheco and Georgia Southern QB Jerick McKinnon splitting the load out of the backfield while 1st round pick CEH rode the bench.

In 2018, when the Rams made their Super Bowl run, they signed CJ Anderson off the street to replace an injured Todd Gurley and got the same level of production.

LeVeon Bell is another example. He thought he was more responsible for his success than the Steelers' scheme and OL. He sat out an entire season, signed a huge deal with the Jets, and immediately sucked donkey dick. RBs cannot out-athlete front sevens in modern football. Front sevens have gotten too good.

RBs are a dime a dozen for the most part. Taking one before the 3rd round of the draft is a complete waste of a pick, and signing one to a second contract is a bad use of resources.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Dairy Sanders
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Corners can't cover guys forever. You could have Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis on the edge and still give up 300 passing yards a game if you can't get a pass rush.


Would never happen and you know that, come on now lol.

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I'm a huge believer in prioritizing linemen over skill players. Alex Mack is the best free agent signing the Falcons have ever made, for example.


I agree with the caveat that elite D-linemen (or edges) who can pass rush AND shut down the run are who are truly valuable. Aaron Donald made a huge leap in who he was from in 2014-2018 to who he was from 2019-2022 because he went from just being a good-elite pass rusher to being an all around elite linemen. He was so bad to meh against the run that the Rams grabbed Suh to help them in 2018. After that year with Suh, Donald’s run stopping ability changed completely.

Posted by bcoop199
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:07 pm to
WR's are more valuable than RB's, at least top level ones are. Tyreke Hill, JJ, Jamar Chase, etc.. is far more valuable than top level RB's. They open up the whole offense because the back 7 have to fear the deep ball.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:21 pm
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