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re: Samsung and Intel cancel plans to build advanced semiconductor plants in U.S.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:33 am to POTUS2024
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:33 am to POTUS2024
quote:2024 Semiconductor Jobs Trend
Aside from the engineering, what special attributes are required to work in a facility that's making chips?
Semiconductor companies employ a variety of job positions, including Semiconductor Process Engineers, Process Technicians, Device Engineers, Test Engineers, Packaging Engineers, Product Engineers, Process Integration Engineers, Equipment Engineers, Equipment Technicians, Design Engineers, Reliability Engineers, and Semiconductor Characterization Engineers.
I'm disappointed in you asking this question. As important as this industry is, as a presidential candidate you should already know and understand this industry, or know how to quickly come up to speed.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:35 am to POTUS2024
quote:Announced technologies don't translate to immediate availability. For a presidential candidate,you sure don't seem to understand business dynamics.
Why don't they build these new facilities to accommodate these new capabilities?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:41 am to SloaneRanger
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let’s be honest—factual news is basically extinct
Yes, much like healthy food options, reliable news is hard to come by and requires a bit more effort. However, we can still be intentional about what we consume and believe in.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:54 am to BabaLooey
Destroy a country from within-101
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:59 am to HubbaBubba
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Semiconductor companies employ a variety of job positions, including Semiconductor Process Engineers, Process Technicians, Device Engineers, Test Engineers, Packaging Engineers, Product Engineers, Process Integration Engineers, Equipment Engineers, Equipment Technicians, Design Engineers, Reliability Engineers, and Semiconductor Characterization Engineers.
I'm disappointed in you asking this question. As important as this industry is, as a presidential candidate you should already know and understand this industry, or know how to quickly come up to speed.
I said, aside from engineering, and you give me a list of "engineers". Also, I asked about attributes, not qualifications or credentials.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:13 pm to tiggerthetooth
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was set to be built outside of Austin in Taylor, TX.
Was? Pretty sure it is under construction currently.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:21 pm to HubbaBubba
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Announced technologies don't translate to immediate availability. For a presidential candidate,you sure don't seem to understand business dynamics.
Factories are built every day to make use of the latest tech and with the requisite flexibility to accommodate new tech. Your answer implies that this isn't the case.
For someone that comes on a message board asserting some knowledge about this field, your reading comprehension is awful, the link you provided in the other comment was useless, and you have no grasp of how factories are built in this country.
I'm guessing that if I said, "I'm going to build the best chip plants you've ever seen. They're going to be beautiful. Massive factories out in the desert. Biggest ever. We'll make Taiwan jealous. Jealous I tell you. Canon will be begging us to use their new stuff. I'll make them beg, you watch. Only I can do it. No one has seen chips like the chips we're going to make."...then you'd be happy.
If you have any actual knowledge here, I'm happy to take notes and expand my understanding.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:54 pm to BabaLooey
The TSMC chip factory build in Phoenix is a disaster. Too much third world construction practices. Disaster.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:45 pm to POTUS2024
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I said, aside from engineering,
These type of facilities need massive support for infrastructure such as refrigeration , air filtration, electrical, IT support etc. just to name a few things aside from semiconductor engineers.
Not real sure what you mean by attributes.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:03 pm to BabaLooey
Just another example of Pedo Joe and his DEI bullshite. It sucks for our National Security and the communities where those plants would have been located. And now the Libtard’s will call these companies racist because they won’t agree to follow the stupid DEI crap.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:15 pm to BabaLooey
collapse and balkanization cannot come soon enough
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:38 pm to POTUS2024
quote:You're right. It MUST be DEI.
Factories are built every day to make use of the latest tech and with the requisite flexibility to accommodate new tech. Your answer implies that this isn't the case.
For someone that comes on a message board asserting some knowledge about this field, your reading comprehension is awful, the link you provided in the other comment was useless, and you have no grasp of how factories are built in this country.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:43 pm to LuckyTiger
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The Biden Administration foreign policy will be legendary in the long term damage done to the US.
FJB
FOBAMA
FGWBUSH
FBILL&HILLCLINTON
FGHWBUSH
and Phuck the rest of those democrats and republicans in Washington DC that are selling out this once great nation of America.
Geaux Trump
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:53 pm to POTUS2024
The semiconductor industry is in turmoil right now.
So you design a factory to accommodate the machines and clean rooms of what is available, today, but then, you've locked yourself into fixed infrastructure costs to support that technology that takes about 5-6 years to recover costs, but then everyone else builds a factory for newer technology requiring 90% less power and 50% less materials, as well as finished products manufacturers designing new products to take advantage of the newer breakthrough in technology because it lowers their own cost of production and their clients are able to experience greater productivity, are you suggesting you would just go ahead and produced the factory, eat the loss on existing equipment then retool in 2 years when the latest machines hit the market, or do you pause, wait for AMSL and Canon to give you delivery dates, then talk to your clients to see which ones will be making new designs for their products using the new semiconductors and then decide which makes economic sense?
So you design a factory to accommodate the machines and clean rooms of what is available, today, but then, you've locked yourself into fixed infrastructure costs to support that technology that takes about 5-6 years to recover costs, but then everyone else builds a factory for newer technology requiring 90% less power and 50% less materials, as well as finished products manufacturers designing new products to take advantage of the newer breakthrough in technology because it lowers their own cost of production and their clients are able to experience greater productivity, are you suggesting you would just go ahead and produced the factory, eat the loss on existing equipment then retool in 2 years when the latest machines hit the market, or do you pause, wait for AMSL and Canon to give you delivery dates, then talk to your clients to see which ones will be making new designs for their products using the new semiconductors and then decide which makes economic sense?
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