Started By
Message

LSU Men’s Basketball

Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted by tigerfansam
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2009
34 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:47 pm
I am not sure many are interested in men’s basketball any more. I still am. I have watched every telecast although sometimes painful.
A suggestion: why not try a purple and gold approach.
Purple Baker. Gold Dean
Reed. Wilkinson
Cook. Fountain
Williams. Hannibal
Wright. Ward
This would allow the teams to work together on a regular basis. Fresh team with an incentive to do well. Matt has done some of this substitution. Playing the two team approach though might add some spark. Of course there would be occasions where foul trouble would require some changes. In my opinion this season is Lost. I am not sure Matt is the coach to bring the program back. Hopefully he will prove me wrong which would be great!!!
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28514 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:58 pm to
Why would people care about a team when the head coach won't be here 2 years from now?
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48032 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 8:11 pm to
You’re asking for things McMahon can’t do. He can’t coach to his players talent, he doesn’t know how to use our depth and he only knows how to play the way we’ve seen. He's been incapable of adjusting.
Posted by cowboy4ever
z-town
Member since Dec 2009
2230 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 8:19 pm to
Geaux Tigers
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8027 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 8:37 pm to
Maybe not but can McMahon play defensive tackle?

Theres gotta be something he can do to help LSU athletics
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3691 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 8:45 pm to
Idk, because they are fans?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35475 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 8:58 pm to
Not the worst idea anyone has posted. ;)

This Saturday against South Carolina should be very interesting. Could go very good or very bad for LSU, but I have to favor the very good. Baker should be successful against an old Tiger in Josh Gray. Meanwhile they offer a bruiser at power forward and point guard. We can absorb the fouls (we foul a ton every game anyways) but the one vulnerability will be in Trae gets into would trouble, so we should try to guard against that.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30839 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Why would people care about a team when the head coach won't be here 2 years from now?



You may be right.

Here are my thoughts regarding that though.

Anyone who objectively looks at this year's team vs last year's team can see that this year's team is better, I would say significantly better, but considering how bad they were last year, that is not a tall order.

If there is as much relative improvement next season, can McMahon buy himself a 4th season?

Based on who is leaving and who is coming in that we know of right now, I am not sure if that will happen. But if it does plus he has a better recruiting class next season, then what happens?

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28513 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Based on who is leaving and who is coming in that we know of right now, I am not sure if that will happen. But if it does plus he has a better recruiting class next season, then what happens?


At minimum, LSU will lose 4 players from this team: Baker, Wright, Hannibal and Dean. Given the transient nature of college basketball as a whole, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect another 3-4 to leave the program as well. So he’s likely going to be faced with finding an additional 7-8 players to replace the departures. 2 are HS signees (who are both top 100 prospects). The rest will have to come from the transfer portal. Can he put together a new roster, get it to gel, and have success well beyond a roughly .500 record overall and legitimately compete for a NCAAT spot, all in about 10 months? We’ll see. If not, why give him another year to “see” if he can do what he wouldn’t have been able to do in 3 years?

Personally, I think LSU is wasting their time with him now because I just don’t see anything to suggest he’s a coach that can make the program a consistent contender. However, barring something unexpected, he’ll get a 3rd season regardless of how this season finishes.



Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
2391 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:35 pm to
These players have talent?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35475 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect another 3-4 to leave the program as well.
That is COMPLETELY unreasonable. Please tell us the 3-4 players you think will leave the program.

Do you think Ward or Reed leaves? Fountain? Williams or Chest? Mwani or Stewart? Collins? Cook?
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Primeminister337
Member since Apr 2016
116 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 8:29 am to
It’s not unreasonable, you forget that these are college kids and those who have been there may think the grass is greener on the other side. Cook may transfer again if he feels this offense is just not the right fit for him, Ward and reed could transfer because they may be a missing piece a contender can add to strengthen their roster. Collins may leave if he feels like he will not get enough playing time. There is no way of predicting what is going on in these kids heads, unless you know them personally or they are related in some way to you. Nobody who comes into a P5 school wants to stick around if you’re not winning anymore unless they are already deemed a lottery pick. Take the PG for UNC the last couple of years, left and went to Zona after a final four run followed by a sub par season. To sit here and say “why would we lose 3-4 players to the portal” is absurd and if you believe this then you are lying to yourself.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9181 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 8:32 am to
Idk I would think these four definitely stay

quote:

Ward or Reed leaves? Fountain? Williams



Ward/Reed/Williams will probably start or atleast be in the top 6 rotation.

But these I really have no clue:

quote:

Chest? Mwani or Stewart? Cook?


-Chest Redshirting could be a bad sign not sure though

-CMM can probably upgrade off of Stewart so not sure he will be okay not seeing the court

-Mwani still has a free transfer and again barely plays he would probably have a good year at a lower tier school

-Cook and CMM seem to clash, he left LSU in the first place for not starting and now Trae Hannibal is starting over him.


I think its more of Can we upgrade from these guys in the portal? If We get another big and Guard from the portal Chest n Stewart probably won't see the court again next year.
Posted by Primeminister337
Member since Apr 2016
116 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 8:45 am to
You may be right, I’m not saying they won’t stay. I’m just saying it’s not out of the realm of possibilities for them to leave.

So let me ask you this, and this is just an example. Say a P5 school who actually has a chance to contend like tennesse comes and starts pimpin reed or Ward, or they good enough to start there? I’d say they have a good chance. Tennesse might be a bad example but you get what I’m saying
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35475 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 9:19 am to
I think a lot of that is doom casting. Stewart is local and has been fighting injuries. Collins likewise has been injured. If they can get him a medical redshirt (played in 6 games, 2 of which were for 1 minute) I can easily see him coming back to an open center slot with 2 years left.

Like the injured players, the negative posters suggest that Chest is at odds with McMahon. They made the same mistake with Ward last year. From some posters the decision was Chest's so no reason to believe he would leave.

Finally there is Cook, who everyone takes his facial expressions as some sort of anger. I personally haven't seen it change all year. Next year Trae is gone so the starting job is all his for the taking.
Posted by Primeminister337
Member since Apr 2016
116 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:01 am to
Let’s say it is doom casting and all of these guys stay. Coach is going to have to show big strides in improvement and move away from that very Mid Major ish type of offense he’s always ran. And look, I’m not a will wade guy or a Mcman guy, I’m a LSU basketball Fan. It’s my sport of choice and it sucks watching this product on the floor. I’ve sat back not saying anything in hopes Mcman would get it together. But year 3 is approaching and there are people here trying to convince me that overhauls in college basketball take 3-4 years?! I want improvement next year but as far as I can see Mcman is just a solid Mid Major coach, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But adding two top 100 players to this roster might bump him to 500 in the conference next year? One can dream thou…
Posted by robertgamb
Member since Jan 2015
117 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:09 am to
Bottom line it's time to move on from MM,unless LSU is happy with mediocre teams for the next 2 to 3 years!
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7285 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Coach is going to have to show big strides in improvement and move away from that very Mid Major ish type of offense he’s always ran.

Offense is not the issue for LSU, especially since Baker has returned to form shooting. Defense and rebounding are the issue.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1898 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:58 am to
Supposedly Baker has RSV issues for about a month but played through it. He is now fully recovered and why his offense has picked up. Defense and rebounding however………
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12042 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Say a P5 school who actually has a chance to contend like Tennesse comes and starts pimpin reed or Ward, or they good enough to start there? I’d say they have a good chance.



Taking the fact Portal Transfers have become a very big problem for the "Have Nots", makes it appear it was extremely fool hardy to fire a coach like Wade. He always seemed to have a great report with his players.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram