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re: UBS: Do NOT learn to code

Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39895 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:49 pm to
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your too dumb

Again?
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
703 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:16 pm to
The same people that are saying AI is going to take over all coding jobs are the same ones that were saying ten years ago that self driving cars were going to be everywhere in five years.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:59 pm to
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I’m a network engineer and explain my job to people who don’t understand as an internet plumber, lol.
It's just a series of tubes.
Posted by Corner Pocket
Member since Feb 2024
69 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:04 pm to
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Computers, code, machine learning, and by extension AI and robotics needs standardization


Totally agree, which is why I never really understood the "AI is coming, better learn how to weld" stuff. I would say 90% of jobs aren't to the level of standardization needed for AI. Unless you're a cashier or warehouse grunt AI isn't coming for your job anytime soon
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:07 pm to
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I agree, but what exactly can a plumber do that a robot couldn't be built/taught to do?
shite just laying pipe is an extremely difficult problem for a robot. I mean I know there are robots that "lay pipe" but I mean literally laying pipe.

Computer vision, robotics, AI, and a lot of other fields all have a *long* way to go before we have robot plumbers. At least robot plumbers that work the way plumbers currently work. It would be an easier (cheaper) problem to solve if we would re-engineer plumbing altogether with robot plumbers in mind. New materials, joints, fixtures, standardized plumbing methods, all of that redesigned to make the job of the robots easier.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13596 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:10 pm to
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AI will replace a lot of coding. We have already incorporated an AI bot into some of what we are doing. It will dramatically increase.



This is certainly true, but the code itself still needs to be corrected in most cases. It saves a ton of time but a human who is highly competent needs to proof it.

I would equate it to using google translate. Yes it is mostly right, but if you don’t have someone who speaks the language proofing the finished product you will look like an idiot.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1677 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:35 pm to
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I work with a shite ton of offshore developers, they require you to tell them exactly what to do all day. It's actually more efficient for me to just ignore them and do it myself.



The biggest challenge in managing offshore devs is figuring out WTF to do with them. The second biggest challenge is keeping management from hiring a bunch more of them in an attempt to hurry things along.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39003 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:39 pm to
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Problem is, too many baristas that had no business learning code signed up for bootcamps and are now useless.


Yeah, coding bootcamps are dead. The job placement rates are horrendous now.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2636 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:02 pm to
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They're making AI that can walk and think and speak. I'm pretty sure someone can make one to fix your shitter


It’s a crying shame that there’s humans out there that are so blind to their own divinity. For all of our faults and tribulations, you were given the keys to the kingdom and the universe, yet you’re willing to piss it all away for convenience. The human mind combined with the human hand and THUMB is unmatched.

The INSANE complexity of the human hand.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
6147 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:26 pm to
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AI will replace a lot of coding.

Learn to prompt.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21452 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:33 pm to
I remember the old saying learn to code duh!

Now it will be don't learn to code duh!
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21452 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:34 pm to
Laziness.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21127 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:48 pm to
What does the last line mean? It’s worded strangely.

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Similarly, education needs to offer flexibility, and less scientific subjects (including, of course, economics) may be more important in creating future economic success.


Does this mean economics as a subject has value to help businesses navigate these changes, or does it mean we need less of it along with other scientific subjects?
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:08 pm to
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I agree, but what exactly can a plumber do that a robot couldn't be built/taught to do?


Nothing. The same goes for wealth managers.

Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
1031 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:37 am to
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I agree, but what exactly can a plumber do that a robot couldn't be built/taught to do?


Replace “plumber” with “drivers” and ask a Tesla FSD engineer this question.

Seeing, identifying and properly acting on objects in the real world is really complicated…we just don’t realize how complicated it is because humans do this intuitively shortly after they’re born.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3397 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:43 am to
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They're making AI that can walk and think and speak. I'm pretty sure someone can make one to fix your shitter


Or maybe just fix the inefficiency that is a biological being that creates such waste.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41241 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:34 am to
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you're clearly just spouting shite you heard around the office..



Yes. Around the office of the software company I work for.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16645 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:15 pm to
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I was reading on a group on Facebook how cabinet builders are charging $1000 per LF in some areas and have a year-long wait list. For comparison, you can get RTA cabinets for about $130 per LF, and Kraftmaid ordered from Home Depot for $180 to $500 per LF depending.


Been going that way for a while now. When I worked as a trim carpenter, the higher end homes would have custom cabinets built by a shop in East Texas and delivered in. At the time there just wasn't a local shop that could build decent cavinets. Now there several but even with the increased supply prices have shot up. The garbage sold at box stores isn't fit for mobile homes. I've invested in some new tools to start building my own cabinets and doors now. I'm not saving any money but I certainly wont have stuff that will fall apart in a few years.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:40 pm to
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There will always be at least some need for engineers and mechanics to service the robots, but that’s about it. Robots will gradually take over everything else until they deem the humans no longer necessary themselves.


You've read too many sci-fi books or seen too many sci-fi movies lol
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