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re: Do you think taking vitamins & minerals supplements does anything?

Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:10 am to
I think yes. Not the same as getting them from food, and not all sources are the same IMO.
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Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:13 am to
Daily? Nah. But every few weeks I’ll pop a multi for a day or two with the idea that if my diet had some hole in it for some random thing, this will help patch it up.

Whether that’s true or not, I have no idea. But considering the minuscule cost, it makes sense to me
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:16 am to

When you see people 100+ years old get asked in interviews what their secret is,

they NEVER talk about their vitamin regimine.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18459 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:22 am to
quote:

When you see people 100+ years old get asked in interviews what their secret is, they NEVER talk about their vitamin regimine.



Doesn’t matter. They didn’t have access to or the knowledge of modern supplement routines 50-60 years ago.

Might supplements and lifestyle help more people live past 100? What about pushing the boundaries of healthspan? What if we could figure out how to not die even after 100? What if 120 becomes the new 100?

You can’t use the past and present to make decisions about the future. That’s not how innovation works.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11771 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:23 am to
This guy wasn’t a GP but a oncologist
Posted by LSUFAN2005
Member since Aug 2004
1728 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:27 am to
CoQ10 definitely works. It raised my sperm count tremendously.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59051 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:32 am to
quote:

CoQ10 definitely works.


Yep. Most people should be taking Magnesium too. Most people have chronically low levels of that.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4128 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:33 am to
They are not replacements, they are just supplements. I think people want them to be some miracle boost and they simply supply a little extra to combat deficiencies.

Vit D is a good example - for generations now we have been getting less sunshine due to working indoors, sun block, avoiding the sun at certain times. Most people are walking around with less vit d than maybe 30 years ago.

A little D every other day could do you some good.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8212 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:35 am to
Yes.


I take fish oil, my last triglyceride level was 63.
Vitamin D and B12 are important
Vitamin C is important for immune health.

I’d recommend everyone visit someone that specializes in wellness/hormone/anti aging.

They can make sure your hormones are optimized as well as check to see if you are deficient in any vitamins
Posted by 97tiger
Member since Dec 2020
38 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:38 am to
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A little D every other day could do you some good.


studies dont really support that. initial studies on vit d had doctors checking and supplementing everyone. its probably more important in women for bone health after menopause than men.

cheap multivitamin is not going to hurt anything including your wallet.
Posted by 97tiger
Member since Dec 2020
38 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I’d recommend everyone visit someone that specializes in wellness/hormone/anti aging.

They can make sure your hormones are optimized as well as check to see if you are deficient in any vitamins


THIS IS THE NEWEST BULLSH*T THING. Midlevels and quack MD's stealing your money...all cash. Im in the wrong field of medicine. these people are killing it.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8212 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:42 am to
Please explain how it is bullshite?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7371 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:43 am to
Yes.

But I make sure I use a methylated multivitamin.

quote:

Methylation is a crucial biochemical process that occurs in every cell of the body. It plays an important role in various cellular functions. In the context of vitamins, "methylated" refers to nutrients that have undergone a chemical modification to be better absorbed and utilized by the body. Methylated vitamins are particularly important for individuals with the MTHFR mutation, as their bodies struggle to efficiently convert certain vitamins into their active forms.

Taking a methylated multivitamin is important because it “cancels out” the impaired conversion process caused by the MTHFR mutation. This, in turn, allows the body to directly utilize nutrients for critical cellular functions. Methylated vitamins for MTHFR are particularly important for supporting methylation pathways that are disrupted in individuals with the mutation.


LINK

It is estimated that around 40% of the white and hispanic population has the MTHFR mutation. Why is this important? If you have this mutation, you cannot effectively breakdown Folic Acid (fortified and enriched foods are enhanced with folic acid). Your truck can't use crude oil, it needs a refined product, either gasoline or diesel.

quote:

Homocysteine is a chemical in the blood. It is formed when the amino acid methionine, which is a building block of the proteins in our food and body, is naturally broken down (ie, metabolized) to be excreted in the urine (Figure). During this breakdown process, homocysteine can be recycled by our body to be reused to build other proteins. For this recycling, we need vitamins B12, B6, and folate. If a person is deficient in vitamin B12, B6, or folate, homocysteine cannot be efficiently recycled and therefore accumulates in the blood. Also, for recycling to be the most efficient, the enzyme methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR) is needed. Inherited mutations in the gene that make the MTHFR enzyme can lead to an enzyme that is not optimally active and, consequently, may lead to elevated homocysteine levels. Mild to moderate homocysteine elevations are common; extremely high homocysteine elevations are uncommon



Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12258 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:44 am to
I take a multivitamin and 500mg of Vitamin C daily for as long as I can remember. I never get sick. I can’t even remember the last time I got a cold.

Now when I was younger I was big into all the protein power, workout supplements, etc. I quit all that when I got older but still see the same results in the gym if I’m hitting it hard and eating half decent.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9377 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:44 am to
I just know I haven't had a cold since I started taking vit D. 14 years.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68156 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:44 am to
quote:

What if we could figure out how to not die even after 100?


Before long you might be able to upload your brain into an AI robot.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3357 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:44 am to
Colloidal Silver does something.
Evidence: blue people
Posted by CoonA55
Member since Sep 2013
31 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:47 am to
General answer is yes, they help when supplemented for someone who is deficient AND uses quality supplements which is usually the issue.

Absorption rates, eating/exercise regiment, water/electrolyte consumption, co-morbidities and prescription medication consumption are also major factors.

Don't waste time buying anything from CVS/Walgreens/Wal Mart, etc. You'll have to get with someone in the field for detailed recommendations but these are reputable companies that do their own quality control. FDA doesn't regulate supplements so anything can get on the market (although let's not look into what they have approved that's been terrible for the general public). As in Nature Made can put 5% Vitamin C and the rest fillers. They also make products in different forms that aren't effective.

Short list of reputable companies that put out consistent quality products:

BioClinic
MyoXcience
Standard Process
Douglas Labs
Transformation Enzymes
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3708 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:49 am to
I take :B12
D3
K2
Magnesium
Turmeric
PreserVision Eye Vitamins and Minerals-eye Dr. recommended these.I have beginning case of macular degeneration R eye,he said hopefully would slow progression.Seems to be working,hasn’t gotten any worse in over a year.

I seriously doubt that many eat a well balanced diet everyday,I try but it’s very difficult unless one has a private chef(which I don’t).
Besides with modern agriculture where crops are grown on the same soil year after year,the soil gets depleted of micronutrients ,the nutritional value isn’t there.
Farmers use N,P,K,crops look good but studies show the nutritional value of vegetables is significantly less than it was years ago.
We garden and grow some vegetables and we make compost to keep the soil healthier but farmers aren’t going to do that on a large scale basis,too expensive.


Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2928 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:51 am to
Short answer is many-- if not most-- people in the US are probably deficient in some micronutrients / vitamins & minerals.

The body uses different vitamins & minerals to facilitate different body and cellular processes. If you're short on these nutrients, the body just doesn't run as well (like a car wearing out quicker if not well maintained). It may not be apparent for some time, but you'll just age a little quicker, and maybe die a couple to a few years earlier. Unless you're tracking it in an individual, how would you know if someone who dies a little early-- say 50 or 60 years old-- might've lived another 10 or 20 years if they ate better. We sort of intuitively know it for some people (they ate like shite and had a heart attack), but sometimes we don't see the slow damage.

If you eat a perfect diet, which can vary person to person, then you might well live 80 to 100 years with few health issues. In this case, you'd have no need for vitamins & mineral supplements. You'll probably piss a lot of it out if your body has enough.

But this is harder than it used to be. Avoiding processed foods & sugar and trying to eat more vegetables is traditional advice to get more vitamins. But take this into account:

Soil Depletion - Scientific American
or
Veggies have less vitamins - Nat Geo

Modern farming practices deplete the soil and for a lot of store bought produce, you're just not getting the nutrients you thought you might be getting anymore. I haven't read about it, but imagine this holds true for meat as well. If a cow is corn fed vs grass fed, the diet is going to dictate nutrition levels in the meat itself to some degree.

So, vitamin and mineral supplements can help. A multivitamin can be better than nothing. If you want to get granular, some vitamins / minerals ideally should NOT be taken together as they sometimes compete for the same receptors in the body, others are better in the morning vs night, some forms have different effects (D2 v D3, K1 vs K2, Mg Citrate vs Mg Threonate/Glycinate, etc.).

The Health & Fitness Board here on TD often has a lot of discussions about supplements and a lot of people who know more than me about best brands and combos, what to avoid, getting bloodwork done (if you're going all out), and so on:
Fitness Board
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