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Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:50 pm to
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My advice is that if you want to have a quality grinder and really good espresso both for under $1,000 total, get a Flair espresso maker and a good quality mid-priced single dose grinder, like a Turin DF 64. It will take a little practice but the top end potential of the Flair espresso makers is perfect espresso, without the high price.


Isn’t the flair more expensive than the Turin Legato? Get the 64 and Legato. Feel like the Flair would be a pain in the arse. You got to preheat with multiple pulls, you can’t get constant pressure because the pressure is generated from the arm ratchet? Get a Gaggia Classic or Legato and pair it with the DF64. That’s a good beginner setup for under $1k.
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Isn’t the flair more expensive than the Turin Legato? Get the 64 and Legato. Feel like the Flair would be a pain in the arse. You got to preheat with multiple pulls, you can’t get constant pressure because the pressure is generated from the arm ratchet? Get a Gaggia Classic or Legato and pair it with the DF64. That’s a good beginner setup for under $1k.

Can’t argue with any of that, except that the Pro 2 is less than the Legato. It’s just a matter of preference. Lever machines are classics. There’s nothing wrong with using a lever, especially if it has a pressure gauge so you can learn to control the pressures. It gives you total control, and you will learn quickly what the actual variables are that go into great coffee. It was what i learned using the Flair that led me to select the upgrade machine that I got. I wouldn’t have known what the trade offs were if I hadn’t done it manually for a while.

But you are correct that the Legato is probably the best deal for a pump driven machine at its price. It all depends upon which trade offs you are willing to make.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:25 pm to
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Get the 64 and Legato


I bought the Breville Barista Express because I didn’t want to miss the deal, but it ended up being slightly too tall to fit under my counter. That, coupled with my buyers remorse, made me abuse Amazons generous return policy and send it back.

I just bought the Legato and DF64 Gen 2, but the grinder is on pre-order and will take several weeks to ship. The previous DF64 only had yellow left in stock.

Once my return to Amazon is complete, I’m going to use some gift cards to buy some accessories. What are some good recommendations?
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