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re: UPS to cut 12,000 jobs 5 months after reaching union deal

Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22646 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:57 am to
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Because reducing profits isn't an option. Money over EVERYTHING right


Shareholders want to make money. Lots of people depend on the money they made from such investments to eat.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43270 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:12 pm to
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What a stupid purchase by UPS.
Why do you say this?
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1567 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:15 pm to
Wait, you mean to tell me paying drivers 170k isn’t sustainable when Amazon just contracts out to the lowest bidder for their delivery drivers?
Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
480 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:16 pm to
Years ago, I worked at company that was NE based, therefore we all had to join a union. The industry I was in, had historically been very non union especially in the South so it was strange to be in a union. We had contract negotiations come up one year. Being the union rep of my group of workers, I discussed what everyone was seeking in the new contract and sent that to the union. Back and forth the union and our company went, finally reaching a settlement.
We got a call from the union telling us congratulations we still have a job, but that everything we had wanted or hoped for had been denied and the company actually ended up much better off, but hey we still had a job! Unions are pretty much useless other than it takes an act of God and Congress to fire you.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20515 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:24 pm to
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Being the union rep of my group of workers, I discussed what everyone was seeking
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finally reaching a settlement.
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We got a call from the union telling us congratulations we still have a job, but that everything we had wanted or hoped for had been denied


You fricked up by not putting something in there for yourself as the rep. If you'd have shown some initiative, you'd be getting your kickbacks by now and probably moved up. It's all about taking care of yourself when it comes to the union. frick everyone else under you.

Union Rule #1: There's an "M" and an "E" in 'TEAM'. So where's mine?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36670 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Funny how Unions were designed to save the livelihoods, and often lives, of working families. But they've (d)evolved into gluttonous predatory self-serving entities that continuously fight for more money and less work for its members and give the middle finger to everyone else.


Did you read it?

quote:

UPS will cut 12,000 jobs and released a revenue outlook for this year that sent its shares down sharply.

The company also hinted that its Coyote truck load brokerage business may be put up for sale. UPS acquired the Chicago-based company for $1.8 billion in 2015.

The Teamsters in September voted to approve a tentative contract agreement with UPS, putting a final seal on contentious labor negotiations that threatened to disrupt package deliveries for millions of businesses and households nationwide. The contract includes pay raises for full- and part-time union workers, the creation of 7,500 full-time jobs and the filling of 22,500 open positions, allowing more part-timers to transition to full-time.

On a conference call Tuesday morning, CEO Carol Tome said that by reducing the company’s headcount UPS will realize $1 billion in cost savings. The job eliminations are anticipated to be among management roles and contractors, the company said.


Sounds to like 2 things are happening:
1. Too many repetitive management roles.
2. The contractors they like will be hired on as UPS employees and new teamsters.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12815 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:29 pm to
OT hates when the working man wins one.
Posted by AceHole
Your mothers bedroom
Member since Mar 2012
934 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:25 pm to
You think this bunch of physically fit, super model banging millionaires care about the working man?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25890 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:30 pm to
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quote:
Delivered they arse straight to the unemployment line.
know you trying to be clever butv the union guys won't be hurt. non union will be the cuts


I promise you that there will be union cuts.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3253 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Because reducing profits isn't an option. Money over EVERYTHING right


Companies EXIST to make money for the shareholders (owners). Nobody starts a business because they want to employ people for the betterment of society. That’s not how this works.

When did they stop teaching free enterprise and basic economics? The profit motive and free market capitalism is the best way to help the most people. It’s not debatable.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4054 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:36 pm to
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They have a fiduciary responsibility to never reduce profits. Put (maybe too) simply, that's not legal.



The fiduciary responsibility is to act in the best interest of the Shareholders, which doesn't mean to never reduce profits.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12444 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:39 pm to
Ups about to go the way of usps with all the management and support staff about to get shite canned.
Posted by bnmathm
Member since Nov 2007
57 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:48 pm to
When you're paying the drivers $170K, they really shouldn't need a manager.

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"When you look at total compensation, by the end of the new contract, the average UPS full-time driver will make about $170,000 annually in pay and benefits," Tome told investors Tuesday. "And for all part-time union employees that are already working at UPS, by the end of this contract, they will be making at least $25.75 per hour while receiving full health care and pension benefits."
. wwl
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7359 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:35 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35577 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:29 pm to
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The job eliminations are anticipated to be among management roles and contractors, the company said.


shite going by this these layoffs seem like something tOT would normally celebrate.


People actually doing the shite and producing the product are getting paid more and a bunch of middle management paper pushers (prob filled to the fricking brim with DEI hires) is getting gutted.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36670 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:30 pm to
OT is too busy raging about unions to realize that UPS is an excellent organization that's discovered how to use the Teamsters to their advantage.

This ain't the UAW.
Posted by sc2anni
at my desk
Member since Feb 2023
410 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:39 pm to
I retired from there in 2000 and AFAIK they always brought hourly up through the ranks to be CEO. I think Carol she may be an outside brought in for CEO. What a massive failure she is. I think she is going run the company into the ditch.

I just hope employees didn't upgrade houses and other things based on their raise.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6597 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:48 pm to
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Because reducing profits isn't an option. Money over EVERYTHING right


Posted by flyingtexastiger
Southlake, TX
Member since Oct 2005
1645 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:51 pm to
The OT doesn't know what it really thinks, as usual.
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
309 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:03 pm to
The problem is they aren’t getting that Amazon volume anymore. That hurts. If amazon starts delivering 3p parcels, UPS in big heap trouble.
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