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re: What should the Ravens do w/ Lamar?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:57 am to slackster
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:57 am to slackster
quote:so how would you feel about a 27 year old qb who actually has great playoff stats and also gets there every year?
Lamar just turned 27 and is a top 8ish QB in this league. He struggles in the playoffs but he’s actually in the playoffs quite a bit - something the majority of other QBs can’t even say.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:00 am to WeeWee
Get O-Linemen that block better in playoff games?
Lamar was running 10 yards in reverse at the start of many plays.
The Ravens love Lamar. And they are stuck with him.
Lamar was running 10 yards in reverse at the start of many plays.
The Ravens love Lamar. And they are stuck with him.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:02 am to lsupride87
Lamar is a running back playing QB and gets slower every year. It was on full display with that second run of his yesterday.
He also now has to go through Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Stroud and Herbert with Harbaugh. That was likely the best chance the Ravens had in the next 5-7 years.
He also now has to go through Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Stroud and Herbert with Harbaugh. That was likely the best chance the Ravens had in the next 5-7 years.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:03 am to UnluckyTiger
Sacked 24 times in 6 playoff games.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:06 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I bring you this diatribe to try and illustrate, completion % is a single component of describing how accurate of a passer someone is.
This sounds a lot like moving the goal posts. I’m sure there are advanced stats some where that stuff like deep passes, WR in stride but saying he’s not as accurate as someone else doesn’t mean he is not accurate.
It wasn’t you I was replying too but another poster who keeps says he’s “inaccurate” I’m sorry but it is inaccurate to call a 64.5 career completion percentage as inaccurate.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:13 am to H-Town Tiger
I think something like 25 QBs had a completion % over 64% this season. It just doesn’t mean much anymore
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:22 am to lsupride87
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I think something like 25 QBs had a completion % over 64% this season. It just doesn’t mean much anymore
His CAREER comp percentage is 64.5 (which would be 17th in 2023) and is 22 all time. Burrow leads all time at 68, not exactly a massive difference
For the 2023 season he was 67.2 tied for 8th with Mahomes and ahead of Burrow and Allen.
So do you have anything to contribute to the discussion or just gonna cherry pick stats out of context to the discussion and not actually refute the points?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:26 am to H-Town Tiger
I’m not cherry picking anything
I posted all of his playoff stats
I’m just saying almost every QB now has completion pct in that mid 60s range. It doesn’t really highlight who is and isn’t accurate. Systems now across the board allow for great completion percentages.
If you really want to break it down you are going to have to look into something like PFF or Next Gen that you trust where they watch film
I posted all of his playoff stats
I’m just saying almost every QB now has completion pct in that mid 60s range. It doesn’t really highlight who is and isn’t accurate. Systems now across the board allow for great completion percentages.
If you really want to break it down you are going to have to look into something like PFF or Next Gen that you trust where they watch film
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:27 am to lsupride87
quote:
so how would you feel about a 27 year old qb who actually has great playoff stats and also gets there every year?
I’d like him too.
I like Allen
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:31 am to slackster
Don’t gaslight me
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:40 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Did you watch the game yesterday? He was throwing up prayers and missing short throws. He sucks when it matters and is forced to throw.
Do you guys even look at his numbers or watch the games? His career completion percentage is 64.5, this year he was 67.2 in what universe is that “inaccurate”?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:06 pm to CalLSU
zay flowers is a mental midget who cost his team momentum, yards, and points.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:07 pm to CalLSU
You don’t get rid of him.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:12 pm to CalLSU
quote:
He just finished his 6th season in the NFL
And will have won two MVPs and you're wanting to trade him
quote:
Possibly moving him to a team that has a high pick in this draft so you could draft his replacement and basically start this whole process over.
And draft a QB like Caleb or Daniels that you dream one day could possibly become a player as good as... Lamar Jackson.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:12 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Also, the ravens defense is superior to the chiefs
Their “legends of the game” don’t count in 2024
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:24 pm to CalLSU
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What should the Ravens do w/ Lamar?
Have him date Swift after Kelce gets dumped with a new Taylor breakup song.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:37 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:Cool. The ravens still had a better defense than the chiefs this year
Their “legends of the game” don’t count in 2024
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:38 pm to BilJ
quote:
in his defense, I'd say this was his first go with some solid weapons at his disposal. The game plan in general for the ravens wasn't good.
regardless, the OP thinking they should trade an MVP caliber QB is retarded.
I understand the logic behind not wanting to move on from an MVP caliber QB. However, if you look at how he has played in the regular season as opposed to the playoffs, it's like he is the Monstars after getting the powers in the regular season and then the Monstars before getting the powers in the playoffs. Maybe that changes at some point and he wins a Super Bowl. All I am saying is what we saw yesterday is eerily similar to what we have seen from him throughout the playoffs. Teams seem to figure him out in the playoffs or he is playing against a much better opponent and looks just like he did yesterday. As an organization, which is what I was presenting in my OP, I don't think it is crazy to consider moving on from him. I get that Manning changed course and started winning more in the playoffs and eventually won a Super Bowl. However, I think he is the exception and not the rule when it comes to QB's. Again, I get that this may sound crazy or controversial. All I was saying is that at what point do you decide to go in a different direction? At what point does his subpar playoff performance cause his regular season performance to be overshadowed? As others have mentioned, due to his contract, you may HAVE to stay with him for at least 2 more years.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:41 pm to CalLSU
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If I am the Ravens, I might look into moving him, you would be able to get a pretty significant haul for him. Possibly moving him to a team that has a high pick in this draft so you could draft his replacement and basically start this whole process over. They have a great team that you could still be ready to win now and plus, you wouldn't have that big contract to worry about.
Some of you always take things too far. The Ravens are making money hands over fist right now and Lamar Jackson is a big reason for that.
Every team can't win a SB, that doesn't mean that you just take everything apart and start over, when you're going to the playoffs every year, selling out every game and selling a ton of merchandise.
So your plan is just to tank and go for a college QB in a couple of years? Mind you, you don't know what the crop of QBs will be but you're banking on that guy being better than Mahomes?
And then you don't know what the rest of the team is going to look like in 3 years. Players get hurt, they move on in free agency, and they just get old quickly. Their window is now, they just have to make the best of it with what they have.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:52 pm to CalLSU
He is who he is. Limited capacity for greatness.
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