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2024 Spring Garden Thread
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:04 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:04 am
Welcome to the 2024 Spring Garden Thread.
Here are some useful resource links:
Gardening info/learning:
Home Gardening Certificate Course
LSU AgCenter Main Page
LSU AgCenter Vegetable Planting Guide
Davesgarden.com
Seedsavers Exchange learning page
Epic gardening raised bed plans
• The LSU AgCenter website and planting guide will have almost all the information you need for growing just about anything in Louisiana.
• Davesgarden.com is really useful for their watchdog section which gathers ratings on different seed companies and nurseries.
• The Seedsavers learning page is a very easy to use website that is great for beginners.
Seed/plant websites:
Harris Seeds
Park Seed
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds (rareseeds.com)
Reimer seeds
Gurney’s
Migardener.com
Dixondale Farms
Willhite Seed
Most of these are very reputable sites for ordering seeds. Reimer is the only one I’ve ever had problems with. However, they have an extremely large selection, so they may be worth the gamble for some harder to find varieties. I’ve also ordered seeds from various sellers on amazon with no problems.
Here are some useful links to learn about different products for disease and pests:
Organic disease and pest management:
Neem Oil
Liquid Copper
Pyrethrin
Spinosad
Bacillus Thuringiensis
Hydrogen Peroxide / Hydrogen Peroxide mixing chart for garden use
Non-organic disease and pest management:
Fungicides:
Daconil
Mancozeb
Insecticides:
Bonide Eight (permethrin)
Sevin dust
Liquid Sevin (Zeta-Cypermethrin)
If there are any other products or links that you'd recommend, please let me know and I'll add them.
Average first and last frost date lookup
Farmers Almanac first and last frost date.
LSU Ag articles for common spring plants:
Tomatoes
I find this to be a little too soon based on past experience. My transplants typically would become overgrown before plant out. I aim for 6 weeks.
Peppers
Eggplant
Cucumbers
LSU Ag Spring Harvest Guide
Here are some useful resource links:
Gardening info/learning:
Home Gardening Certificate Course
LSU AgCenter Main Page
LSU AgCenter Vegetable Planting Guide
Davesgarden.com
Seedsavers Exchange learning page
Epic gardening raised bed plans
• The LSU AgCenter website and planting guide will have almost all the information you need for growing just about anything in Louisiana.
• Davesgarden.com is really useful for their watchdog section which gathers ratings on different seed companies and nurseries.
• The Seedsavers learning page is a very easy to use website that is great for beginners.
Seed/plant websites:
Harris Seeds
Park Seed
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds (rareseeds.com)
Reimer seeds
Gurney’s
Migardener.com
Dixondale Farms
Willhite Seed
Most of these are very reputable sites for ordering seeds. Reimer is the only one I’ve ever had problems with. However, they have an extremely large selection, so they may be worth the gamble for some harder to find varieties. I’ve also ordered seeds from various sellers on amazon with no problems.
Here are some useful links to learn about different products for disease and pests:
Organic disease and pest management:
Neem Oil
Liquid Copper
Pyrethrin
Spinosad
Bacillus Thuringiensis
Hydrogen Peroxide / Hydrogen Peroxide mixing chart for garden use
Non-organic disease and pest management:
Fungicides:
Daconil
Mancozeb
Insecticides:
Bonide Eight (permethrin)
Sevin dust
Liquid Sevin (Zeta-Cypermethrin)
If there are any other products or links that you'd recommend, please let me know and I'll add them.
Average first and last frost date lookup
Farmers Almanac first and last frost date.
LSU Ag articles for common spring plants:
Tomatoes
quote:
Seeds should also be started 8-10 weeks prior to planting in the ground in the spring
I find this to be a little too soon based on past experience. My transplants typically would become overgrown before plant out. I aim for 6 weeks.
Peppers
quote:
Plant seed 8-10 weeks prior to the spring planting date
Eggplant
quote:
Start seeds 8 to 10 weeks before the desired time of transplanting.
Cucumbers
quote:
Gardeners in North Louisiana can plant cucumber seed or transplant from April to mid-May. A fall crop can be planted in early August. South Louisiana gardeners can plant seed from mid-March to mid-May. A fall crop is planted in late August in the south.
LSU Ag Spring Harvest Guide
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:43 am to PillageUrVillage
I just ordered my first ever seed starter kit. Going to see if I can cut down on how many plants I buy from Home Depot. I still have two poblanos that survived my Fall experimentation, and I am going to treat them like house plants for the next few weeks.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:51 am to PillageUrVillage
In!
Just placed an order from Baker Creek. I need more seeds like I need a hole in my head but here we are. My sister also bought me 4 or 5 new varieties from Baker Creek for Christmas along with a seed organizer.
I had pretty good luck with a couple of different types of melons planted mid summer last year. Other than the dogs swiping them they were pretty prolific and easy to grow.
Going to plant fewer tomatoes this year and more squash. Last spring I planted 16 tomato plants. Only about 10 made it through the late freeze and it was still overwhelming.
As far as peppers go I think I'll plant Jimmy Nardello, Corbaci, and Big Jims. Once I figure up varieties and draw out everything I'll post that. I have about 25 or 30 tomato varieties to choose from. I think I'm going to start a lot more than I need and give the extras away.
I might make another 4x8 bed. I'm running out of room in the backyard, though.
Just placed an order from Baker Creek. I need more seeds like I need a hole in my head but here we are. My sister also bought me 4 or 5 new varieties from Baker Creek for Christmas along with a seed organizer.
I had pretty good luck with a couple of different types of melons planted mid summer last year. Other than the dogs swiping them they were pretty prolific and easy to grow.
Going to plant fewer tomatoes this year and more squash. Last spring I planted 16 tomato plants. Only about 10 made it through the late freeze and it was still overwhelming.
As far as peppers go I think I'll plant Jimmy Nardello, Corbaci, and Big Jims. Once I figure up varieties and draw out everything I'll post that. I have about 25 or 30 tomato varieties to choose from. I think I'm going to start a lot more than I need and give the extras away.
I might make another 4x8 bed. I'm running out of room in the backyard, though.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 9:32 am to PillageUrVillage
Here we go! I'm fully healed from the broken foot and ready to get after it.
I sent in soil samples last week. I have all my seeds, and I'll plant the peppers this weekend.
I sent in soil samples last week. I have all my seeds, and I'll plant the peppers this weekend.
quote:I agree here. Six weeks is plenty of time for tomatoes. I'll start mine in mid-February and target transplanting in late March.
I find this to be a little too soon based on past experience. My transplants typically would become overgrown before plant out. I aim for 6 weeks.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:34 am to PillageUrVillage
I've never had much luck with bell peppers. Over many years, I've done everything the LSU Ag site recommends (with the possible exception of pinpoint pH control.) I keep the aphids away with soap and neem.
The plants and fruit usually look great, but I always get a rubbery texture that isn't very appealing.
My tomatoes, jalapenos, and eggplant grow great in the same dirt.
Anyone had and/or solved this issue?
The plants and fruit usually look great, but I always get a rubbery texture that isn't very appealing.
My tomatoes, jalapenos, and eggplant grow great in the same dirt.
Anyone had and/or solved this issue?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:50 pm to PillageUrVillage
Pillage i would suggest adding Dixondale farms for onions and Wilhite seed to your list.
Wilhite has a great variety of field peas and beans nobody else carries, especially top pick varieties.
Wilhite has a great variety of field peas and beans nobody else carries, especially top pick varieties.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:48 am to PillageUrVillage
Gonna try from seeds again this year, last year was a wash, ended up just buying some transplants. Just picked up a soil test from LSU Ag in Covington, will probably get a sample this evening.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:27 pm to PillageUrVillage
I just bought seed potatoes and cut them to harden off on Saturday. I was going to plant them today. Should I hold off on planting until after the polar vortex? I was worried about not getting them in the ground because I cut them and I’m also worried about putting them in the ground because of the cold. Any suggestions?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:51 am to PillageUrVillage
Can y'all recommend what type of dirt I should put in some new raised beds? We have 8 6' x 3' raised beds, 2' deep, we have several layers of cardboard covering the bottom, twigs and sticks on top of that and now we need to fill them up. Any companies y'all can recommend that will bring in a truckload or so and what type of dirt am I looking at getting?
Looking forward to this thread for sure, y'all have some great advice and set ups.
eta: I'm in Baton Rouge
Looking forward to this thread for sure, y'all have some great advice and set ups.
eta: I'm in Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:38 pm to PillageUrVillage
Covered my tomato plants to protect from the freeze and they still got smoked. They were producing pretty well too.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:15 pm to PillageUrVillage
Started tomatoes (2 varieties of romas, an italian grape, and brown sugar); eggplant; and nadapeno, banana, and poblano peppers last Thursday. All 36 of the Romas and a couple of the brown sugar, Italian grape, and nadapenos had germinated yesterday.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:22 am to PillageUrVillage
Am I dreaming, or did there used to be a stickied thread all about growing grass on the home page?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:19 pm to PillageUrVillage
Is there any difference in effectiveness between Hi-Yield and Southern Ag brands for making the Cleggs Cocktail? The pricing on Amazon is significantly cheaper in comparison:
Southern Ag Atrazine St. Augustine Grass Weed Killer, 1 Gallon
$36.75
Southern Ag 12102 Sticker Spreader 16oz
$12.20
Fertilome (10532) Weed Free Zone RTU (1 Gal)
$37.71
Southern Ag Atrazine St. Augustine Grass Weed Killer, 1 Gallon
$36.75
Southern Ag 12102 Sticker Spreader 16oz
$12.20
Fertilome (10532) Weed Free Zone RTU (1 Gal)
$37.71
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:02 pm to PillageUrVillage
I'm excited for this year after coming up with a way to tweak what I have done in years past.
Due to being in public accounting, it is pretty damn hard to find time to get out there and do what needs to be done in the garden and I've always bit off more than I could chew. This year I'm downsizing quite a bit and have put in some more permanent plants that produce. This way my work is cut down but I still get the pleasure of harvesting.
I'm also going to move my hives from their current location. Right now they are shaded most of the time unless it is summer and the sun is right overhead. They also currently face north and I'd like to changed that.
But before I move the hives, I need to rebuild my chicken coop. It held up like a champ through Laura and Delta but after those 2 storms, a couple of floods, and learning what I want in a coop, it is time to replace it.
This is my design of how I want it all layed out:
The current coop is in the same spot (NE corner) as the new one will go but is a tad bigger (4x8) and on the ground. I want to go with this raised, 5x5 plan from homegardendesignplan.com.
The old one flooded at least twice in the 4 years I had it there. This should get it out of any reach of water. I'll also put a little gutter system on the roof to catch rain water into a 50G barrel to keep water out there. If we hit another drought, I can always drag the hose over and fill it up. After that gets built, I should be able to move the hives in the run, put up some chicken wire around the plants, and call it a day.
For the garden, I already have the blueberry and fig tree in the ground. I started jalapeno, habenero, romas, and purple cherokee last weekend. When those are ready to go in the ground, I'll probably have to get out there with a headlamp after work one night but at least it won't be too many. I'll squeeze in some lemon queen sunflowers behind the blueberry because the wife and kids really like them. If I have room I'll sprinkle in some okra here and there just because I love tossing them in olive oil, salt, and pepper and grilling them.
For beans I'll stick with yard longs and I'm not sure on cucumber varieties yet so I'm open to suggestions. I'll buy a sheet of cattle panel and make an arch going from each side of the bed.
I'll also take suggestions on strawberry varieties as well.
I plan on replacing my 2 apple trees with satsumas but they may wait another year. The apples haven't done great at all.
All in all I can't wait for the next 2 1/2 months to go by so I can get to work.
Due to being in public accounting, it is pretty damn hard to find time to get out there and do what needs to be done in the garden and I've always bit off more than I could chew. This year I'm downsizing quite a bit and have put in some more permanent plants that produce. This way my work is cut down but I still get the pleasure of harvesting.
I'm also going to move my hives from their current location. Right now they are shaded most of the time unless it is summer and the sun is right overhead. They also currently face north and I'd like to changed that.
But before I move the hives, I need to rebuild my chicken coop. It held up like a champ through Laura and Delta but after those 2 storms, a couple of floods, and learning what I want in a coop, it is time to replace it.
This is my design of how I want it all layed out:
The current coop is in the same spot (NE corner) as the new one will go but is a tad bigger (4x8) and on the ground. I want to go with this raised, 5x5 plan from homegardendesignplan.com.
The old one flooded at least twice in the 4 years I had it there. This should get it out of any reach of water. I'll also put a little gutter system on the roof to catch rain water into a 50G barrel to keep water out there. If we hit another drought, I can always drag the hose over and fill it up. After that gets built, I should be able to move the hives in the run, put up some chicken wire around the plants, and call it a day.
For the garden, I already have the blueberry and fig tree in the ground. I started jalapeno, habenero, romas, and purple cherokee last weekend. When those are ready to go in the ground, I'll probably have to get out there with a headlamp after work one night but at least it won't be too many. I'll squeeze in some lemon queen sunflowers behind the blueberry because the wife and kids really like them. If I have room I'll sprinkle in some okra here and there just because I love tossing them in olive oil, salt, and pepper and grilling them.
For beans I'll stick with yard longs and I'm not sure on cucumber varieties yet so I'm open to suggestions. I'll buy a sheet of cattle panel and make an arch going from each side of the bed.
I'll also take suggestions on strawberry varieties as well.
I plan on replacing my 2 apple trees with satsumas but they may wait another year. The apples haven't done great at all.
All in all I can't wait for the next 2 1/2 months to go by so I can get to work.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:29 pm to PillageUrVillage
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anyone know what kind of sweet pepper this is from Sams? I love them and would like to try growing them but they don’t say what kind
anyone know what kind of sweet pepper this is from Sams? I love them and would like to try growing them but they don’t say what kind
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:05 am to PillageUrVillage
Received my soil results from LSU Ag and seem to be low in just about everything. I spoke to him yesterday and he gave me some things to add, but he mentioned adding 4lbs of Potash per 8' x 4' bed, does that seem a bit high? I know he's the expert, but the back of the bag shows adding considerably less.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:13 am to PillageUrVillage
What drip irrigation system are y'all using? Plan on setting one up this year, and they have tons of options on Amazon.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:09 pm to PillageUrVillage
Stepped away from planting food for awhile but walked around the yard today and took a few good spring garden pics.
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