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re: The Boeing 737 Max is a grease fire. Boeing’s Edsel
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:10 pm to Cuz413
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:10 pm to Cuz413
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Add to that the merger of Boeing and I forget who else caused a fundamental change in the development and construction practices of their jets.
Let's not pretend that Boeing didn't have many hull losses that weren't pilot error long before they merged.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 6:06 pm
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:21 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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Talk to an osprey pilot and they'll tell you differently. They love flying them.
Military pilots see their mounts through lovestruck eyes. Also, their military bosses make rah-rah’ing the Osprey policy. Badmouth it, and your career is over in the Marine Corps. Leadership has made VTOL the centerpiece of the Corps’s identity, and so now it’s gospel, no matter the actual results. And you WILL worship at church, troop. But facts don’t lie. It’s expensive to operate and trouble-prone. And the accident and fatality rate speaks for itself.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:51 pm to JasonDBlaha
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With how they keep lowering the required amount of flying hours to be able to obtain an commercial aviation licens
That’s the opposite of what they’ve done.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:39 pm to Geekboy
The McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 was pretty notorious for crashing back in the late 70's-early 80's
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:06 pm to Geekboy
You are seeing the DEI era of Boeing
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:18 pm to Geekboy
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This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:04 pm to BeepNode
Moving HQ from Seattle to Chicago was a bad sign...
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:06 pm to BeepNode
This is accurate.
Boeing is weak, but will continue to exist b/c the federal government deemed them essential.
Boeing is weak, but will continue to exist b/c the federal government deemed them essential.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:12 pm to grizzlylongcut
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God what a piece of shite. fricking steel death trap.
I flew on one in 2016, worst flight of my life.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:12 pm to BeepNode
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The positive for them is that the US Fed will pay Boeing many billions of dollars to catch up with and beat Space-X.
Boeing is at least a decade behind SpaceX. There's SpaceX, and then there's everyone else. Even Uncle Sam couldn't help Boeing catch up to Musk.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:26 pm to Scuttle But
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:39 pm to BeepNode
They can throw all the money they want at Boeing and it's not going to help. They're nowhere near SpaceX in terms of rocketry. No one is.
Besides, NASA is pot committed to SpaceX at this point. I think even the FAA has been given the wink wink, nudge nudge to fast track SpaceX launch licenses going forward.
Besides, NASA is pot committed to SpaceX at this point. I think even the FAA has been given the wink wink, nudge nudge to fast track SpaceX launch licenses going forward.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:47 pm to EST
quote:Only two DC10s still in operation per this article - no US commercial or cargo flying since 12/2022
For you older guys - back in the 70’s and 80’s DC -10’s scared the crap out of me. I’d fly on a Max before a DC-10.
LINK https://avgeekery.com/fedex-retires-the-md-10/
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:59 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Any truth to the idea that it’s purely a product of our current regulatory environment/framework?
What I’ve seen, says that makes it pretty much completely unfeasible to design and build a new plane from the ground up, such that they are forced to try to continually update a nearly 60 year old platform.
This is mostly Boeing propaganda. Yes, it affected Boeing, but they got behind Airbus on designing a new airliner. Knowing that they were too far behind to follow normal regulatory timelines, they decided to use enough of the 737 design to slide it through as a redesign.
Frankly, regulators clearly shouldn't have let it happen, because they produced a rushed product with apparent flaws
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:23 pm to EST
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For you older guys - back in the 70’s and 80’s DC -10’s scared the crap out of me. I’d fly on a Max before a DC-10.
The DC-10 got a bad rap early on, especially the AA crash that ended up being due to a bad maintenance procedure, but turned out to be a long haul/cargo workhorse.
I really miss seeing tri-jets and still get excited when I get to see a FedEx or UPS MD-11 fly overhead.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:03 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Frankly, regulators clearly shouldn't have let it happen, because they produced a rushed product with apparent flaws
I thought Boeing failed to disclose certain 737 Max issues to the FAA?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:15 am to AlwysATgr
This is false. Don’t know where you heard or read that but it isn’t true.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 12:17 am
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:21 am to Galactic Inquisitor
What’s your proof of this? Just talking out of your arse?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:16 am to StreakySchmidty
quote:Huh? This was widely reported for years, and I don’t know why you’re weirdly simping for Boeing in this thread. Here is a more recent article that took like 2 seconds to google.
This is false. Don’t know where you heard or read that but it isn’t true.
US FAA tells manufacturers to disclose safety critical information after Boeing 737 MAX crashes
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Boeing did not disclose key details to the FAA of a safety system called MCAS, which was linked to both fatal crashes and designed to help counter a tendency of the MAX to pitch up.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:33 am to LSUFanHouston
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but this plane left the factory with the plug there.
Dafuk?
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