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re: What separates Harlem Berry from Caden Durham?

Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:09 pm to
Is Derrius Guice a good comp for Durham out of HS ?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:35 pm to
Different type of players

People on here are finally realizing how elite Durham is.

His explosiveness is next level.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9517 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:37 pm to
I've seen Berry play many times. He's fun to watch, especially against weak competition, but very unpolished. The athleticism and speed are way above average. I just truly believe he will need work when he gets here. Not his fault at all, and he will have good backs around him to keep him from being thrust into the fire too soon.

Durham is everything Berry is, but more polished but he's also considerably older and played against better comp. He will be quicker to plug and play. I believe the floor for both is really high, but the ceiling for Berry is higher. They could actually be great for each other, and not have either take too much of a beating.

James Simon can freaking tote it, too.

All 3 have similarities but enough differences in build, running style, and skills to work well together.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:39 pm to
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I believe the floor for both is really high, but the ceiling for Berry is higher. They could actually be great for each other, and not have either take too much of a beating.


This is probably a good way to put it. If berry hits his ceiling catching the ball.

I love the way Durham runs. He reminds me of guice in a way.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Is Derrius Guice a good comp for Durham out of HS ?


Guice, Berry, and Simon are all longer. Dunham is more compact like Clyde. I think once Berry and Simon are done filling out, we'll know more about comps. Simon may end up being a moose.

ETA: I don't disagree with Guice and Durham having similar running styles. They're just not built alike at all.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Jsteven
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:40 pm to
Kaleb Jackson, Durham, possibly Berry and Simon in 3 straight recruiting cycles is ridiculous.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17656 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:27 pm to
I don't know, but I'm getting Fournette/Guice vibes. Actually, I guess Bush/White although neither fills the White role and neither of them quite have the size.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7345 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:41 pm to
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Durham is just as fast, but bigger.


Wow I didn’t realize this. Just saw he ran a wind aided 10.25. That’s BLAZING
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279056 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:07 am to
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Fournette wasn't clocking 4.37 40s. Fournette was crazy fast for his size and had crazy long speed, but Berry is Reggie Bush speed.



Fournette was running 10.5 in high school


and ran the fastest weight-adjusted 40 time at the combine, ever. His speed score is literally "generational".

4.51 at 240lbs lol.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279056 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:21 am to
Im still not sold on Berry as a RB.

He has a 5 star profile, but I think would be better suited playing CB or WR like Donte Jackson was coming out.

The competition is laughably bad, but just does not seem like a natural RB to me.


This kid from Mandeville in the same weight class/ mold is more naturally gifted runner and will be one of those kids LSU is recruiting after a year or 2 at a different school, sadly.

Nate Sheppard, RB Mandeville


Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10616 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:48 am to
Sheppard is a really good player and has the blood line to prove he can play at the next level. He just doesn't have the same burst as Berry.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279056 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:53 am to
He has burst, vision, and some power. Just has an overall natural feel for the position. Which leads to long runs and not getting caught from behind.

They don’t skin a cat the same, but the outcomes are alike.
Posted by LouisianimaI
Member since Dec 2023
576 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:58 am to
Durham has played way better competition and proven himself. Berry is talented but it remains to be seen what he does when competition turns up.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10616 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:18 pm to
I'm high on Sheppard as well. I thought he was one of the best players in the state during the playoffs. We should sign him as an athlete and figure out where to put him once he gets on campus. He'd have to bulk up a bit to play RB. Same with Berry.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5094 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:27 pm to
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should have went


Evidence to completely disregard everything in this post.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27001 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:31 pm to
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generational


Please let this die.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27350 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:56 pm to
Sheppard is pretty smooth.

Some extremely nice cuts. Almost looks effortless.

He almost looks like he does everything at the same speed. Doesn't lose speed when cutting.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3637 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:08 pm to
That’s why the recruiting rankings can be a bit fickle. Reality is that both Caden and Harlem are sure fire, elite elite prospects and we’re fortunate to get both of them.
Posted by TheTeaux
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Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:56 pm to
Who is his dad?
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2673 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:01 am to
Just watching the Duncanville state championship game, I was blown away by Durhams speed. When he really kicked it in to turn the corner, or when he got into the open field, it was like everyone else was running in the mud. He was that much faster than anyone on the field….that was on the other team anyway. Moore is fast as shite.

I haven’t seen Berry play. I want to watch a game so I can see it for myself in the flow of said game. It’s better than being fed highlight reels.
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