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re: Mike DeWine vetoes ban on transition-related care for minors and boys on girls teams
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:45 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:45 pm to Auburn1968
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:56 pm to stout
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'Were I to sign House Bill 68, or were House Bill 68 to become law, Ohio would be saying that the state, that the government knows better what is medically best for a child,' DeWine said
No, it would be saying, the state is going to fulfill its limited function in protecting minors from sexual and physical abuse, from anyone.
Parents can’t give their kids alcohol, weed, shrooms, etc. Can’t amputate a limb. And so on.
Blindly ignoring this makes this governor look like an evil fool.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:00 pm to the808bass
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You let the Left reframe gender care as medical treatment.
Yep. It will run its course. There will
be lawsuits in the end.
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You let them reframe the dichotomy of male and female as a cultural belief.
Within reason as I said. Male/female is backed by science. It has legal meaning. That’s a battle worth fighting.
But If a family and their kid wants to transition and a medical doctor supports it - let them. But it should be considered cosmetic and I shouldn’t pay for it.
It takes that family out of the gene pool. And they are doing it voluntarily.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:01 pm to stout
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would be saying that the state, that the government knows better what is medically best for a child,' DeWine said
What. A. Copout.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:02 pm to LuckyTiger
Looks like he is probably into little tranny kids.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:11 pm to BobBoucher
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Yep. It will run its course. There will be lawsuits in the end.
Yeah. frick them kids.
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Within reason as I said. Male/female is backed by science. It has legal meaning. That’s a battle worth fighting.
You’re not in favor of fighting it here.
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But If a family and their kid wants to transition and a medical doctor supports it - let them. But it should be considered cosmetic and I shouldn’t pay for it.
It won’t be considered and your tax dollars will pay for it. Or your insurance pool dollars (by government mandate for qualifying plans).
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
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This right here is why the left wins and the right always loses.
This quote from No Country for Old Men is very apt. "If the rule you follow brought you here, then what was the point of the rule"?
The right has a way of saving libs from themselves. Sometimes conservatives need to step back and let liberals fail.
The Oregon decriminalization of drugs is an example. The soft on crime DAs is another. Gender transitioning is yet another.
It will backfire. Always does.
Knowing when to step in vs letting them fail and choosing certain battles is key. I’d suggest the border crisis isn’t one conservatives want to sit out. Can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube.
So your cliche about the rule - sometimes it’s not clear where it’s taking folks - But enough time - and for those of us who see the forest for trees - we know exactly where it’s headed. And is usually has a lesson for the history books involved.
Cant legislate morality, and really, can’t legislate to prevent progressive failure (depending on what’s at risk).
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:20 pm to BobBoucher
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He’s advocating for zero government involvement/regulation - which is a traditionally conservative approach. So I get it.
This is why conservatives routinely lose. As long as people's bad decisions are bailed out by their neighbors, then regulation of behavior is absolutely needed.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:21 pm to the808bass
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Yeah. frick them kids.
It sucks for them - but they aren’t my responsibility. Natural selection is based on survival of the fittest. Poor parenting has consequences and has thinned out the gene pool throughout Earths history. This is no different.
Same with Hamas and Gaza. It sucks - but they voted for that shite. It has consequences.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:24 pm to scottydoesntknow
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As long as people's bad decisions are bailed out by their neighbors, then regulation of behavior is absolutely needed.
Who said anything about bailing them out? They will be permanently sterile and there will be lawsuits against providers eventually.
That needs to run its course.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:26 pm to stout
The sports obsession with this trans issue is such a limited hangout it’s insane
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:26 pm to BobBoucher
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Yep. It will run its course. There will be lawsuits in the end.
This isnt a matter of kids playing violent video games. As long as you people can say youve stuck to your ideals, damn all the actually innocent and helpless that have their lives ruined in the process. Sticking to your ideals doesnt even work. The left is taking over despite being a minority
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:26 pm to stout
The question no reporter will ever ask him:
"Governor DeWine, why are you so strongly in favor of irreversible child genital mutilation?"
"Governor DeWine, why are you so strongly in favor of irreversible child genital mutilation?"
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:28 pm to BobBoucher
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Who said anything about bailing them out? They will be permanently sterile and there will be lawsuits against providers eventually.
I see we are going the intentionally obtuse route
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:32 pm to stout
Have to assume he's a pervert with skeletons hiding in his closet at risk of leaking if he didn't veto.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:35 pm to scottydoesntknow
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damn all the actually innocent and helpless that have their lives ruined in the process.
Innocent? They want it.
Become an activist and do interventions if you want to do something about it. You’ll never be able to keep up with the amount of idiots out there.
Again - you can’t legislate morality. Otherwise you’re a progressive.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:39 pm to BobBoucher
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Become an activist and do interventions if you want to do something about it. You’ll never be able to keep up with the amount of idiots out there. Again - you can’t legislate morality. Otherwise you’re a progressive.
Or im just a practical person. You absolutely can and should legislate morality. No society has ever lasted 10 seconds without doing so
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:57 pm to scottydoesntknow
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You absolutely can and should legislate morality. No society has ever lasted 10 seconds without doing so
When morality impacts other people (society) - yes.
It doesn’t impact me if sally wants to become Sam.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 2:02 pm to stout
He must be on the dole of the Big Pharma who make the hormone blockers, just like Kristi Noem.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 2:03 pm to LuckyTiger
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Never had a job in the private sector.
i cannot respect a clown like that. never worked his arse off as a roofer, concrete finisher, welder, etc long hours 7 days a week in the heat or cold or in a high stress white collar job working long hours, etc.
f these people.
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