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Why the hate for Corey raymond?

Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:29 am
Posted by Yeahbuddy35
Swagtown USA
Member since Nov 2021
153 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:29 am
Forgive me for not knowing the backstory in this but why do we hate this guy. He was a great tiger coach for a long time. He was the coach when we had actual talent at DB. Unlike now. Can someone please explain why we hate this man?
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5039 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:34 am to
Because of Ed O and going to Florida. People won’t give him credit for recruiting/developing guys like Jamal Adams, Tre White, Donte Jackson, Delpit, Fulton, Sting, etc.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
3298 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:37 am to
Many feel he got lazy and stopped trying in recruiting. Also, strong-armed LSU each opening for a raise/promotion by threatening to leave. BK let him walk. If he does come back, we’ll find out quick if him being lazy rumors were just a product of Coach O post-championship or if he’s just calling it a career and coasting.

I also wonder if he’ll coach both corners and safeties. Some saying Cooks will stay, so I wonder how that’ll work with other rumors that Aranda hired Bill Busch to coach safeties and Raymond hated it.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:39 am
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1887 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:43 am to
Don’t get it either.

Everyone was butt hurt when he left for Florida.

He was the supposed prince of DBU. Hell of a recruiter.

The secondary had a down year on his way out, but we’re coming fresh off the heels of the worst defense in school history.

Only a clown wouldn’t want him back. Our coaching staff sucks. Newsflash - House ain’t getting fired either. May as well fill the position coaches with some big names
Posted by StadiumDormNEZ72
Member since Jun 2023
400 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:46 am to
He was put on the Naughty List for supposedly entertaining other job offers to leverage higher pay, then he got a lot of residual flak for Derek Stingley and Eli Ricks...

But his cardinal sin was mentioning being opposed to police brutality and racism- This banishes him to the Permanent Hate Unredeemable Wasteland, with Drew Brees and Ryan Clark.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9618 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:55 am to
Because Kelly didn't want him, so he must suck or something
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47979 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:03 am to
Because the Rant hates any coach who leaves no matter the reason and they especially hate ex players who’ve become coaches. Very weird
Posted by bignic26
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2013
823 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:57 am to
I don't hate him at all. Yeah he used leverage to get more money but it's hard to fault a guy for trying to make more money. Especially when we're talking about a guy who landed so many great recruits. Stingley and Ricks didn't work out like we hoped but by god he got them to sign on the line that is dotted. They were two of the biggest recruits to ever sign with LSU so he was doing something right.

You look at the players he recruited to LSU and it's pretty incredible. Bring the man home.

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This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 7:58 am
Posted by Nativecoonass
Luling Louisiana
Member since Dec 2022
38 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:04 am to
He hasn't had a good pass defense in over 5 years. Statistically
Posted by Pop
Member since Feb 2013
770 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:14 am to
People here love to hate. They hate media, announcers, coaches, players and other posters. Most miserable collection of human beings in one place you can find. They overshadow reasonable posters and drag this site way down from what it should be.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77587 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:15 am to
He hasnt produced a good cornerbacks group in the last 4 years
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
7010 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:21 am to
No team in him. All about Corey, especially the last few years.

NO...
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2669 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:26 am to
Ron Cooper built DBU not Raymond. Raymond did a nice job sustaining it for a few seasons but in large part the DB problem we have now is because of his lack of recruiting and or evaluations of players. With the transfer portal now wide open having a coach that is constantly looking for a pay raise and entertaining offers is terrible for a program. I think this just wore on people over time and eventually he wore out his welcome.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:28 am
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
2700 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:26 am to
Because he sucks as a DB coach.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7138 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Why the hate for Corey raymond?


bc people are morons who repeat dumb shite others say.. like he stopped recruiting? are you kidding me
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3365 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:05 pm to
Because he was a bad coach at the end of his tenure
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23168 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:07 pm to
We loved Raymond here until he left for Florida.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30599 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:51 pm to
I don't think people hate him, thsy just don't like the product he was putting on the field his last two seasons.

Here is what I mean, LSU passing defense as measured but YPG passing of the opponent.

2012- #35 214.6 YPG
2013- #19 205.1 YPG
2014- #3 164.8 YPG
2015- #56 224.3 YPG
2016- #18 192.5 YPG
2017- #19 188.8 YPG
2018- #30 201 YPG
2019- #51 222.1 YPG
2020- #127 323 YPG
2021- #91 248.8 YPG


2020 was the worst pass defense in the history of LSU football, #127 was dead last. 2021 was nearly identical to this season in terms of pass defense.

For reference here are LSU's last two seasons:

2022- #45 217.2 YPG
2023- #106 253.8 YPG


But it is also true that the defense that is run and set in place by the DC has an impact on those numbers.

So like many, I wouldn't hate if they hired him back but I would prefer it to mostly be for recruiting. I would prefer for LSU to go a different route for their DB coach, however, But I really couldn't throw out who that should be.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12021 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:11 pm to
Its the Ranters way of showing appreciation for all ex LSU stars.

If Joe Burrow was traded to the Cowboys or Falcons he would immediately be scorned.
Posted by MarciMoshes
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2023
188 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:14 pm to
Bunch of alters who are mad they got benched or their son got benched
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