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America is a Fascist State. America is not a Communist State.

Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4435 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:19 pm
The government works in conjunction with the mega billionaires and super corporations to control things. That's fascism.

Communists seize ownership of companies. Former communists include Bernie and AOC. They have basically joined the fascists.

Fascism is evidenced by agency capture, govt/corporate censorship, forced vaccinations, superpacs with unlimited donations, the uniparty, corporate media and their
official talking points, the revolving door between goverment officials and private corporate official(ie. All the Goldman Sac Treasury secrataries). Throw in the military industrial complex, Bank of America turning over credit card records to place people at Jan 6).

No. They are not "communists". They are fascists.

Now the tricky part is, a free market can become fascists when the corporations get too big and powerful along side a powerful central government. It is because of each's great power and wealth that mutually beneficial points of collaboration spring up Fascism is born.

Where conservatives screwed up is that they saw business as good. But as we have all experienced lately, business can become very bad.

It's not business that's good, it's free enterprise in a competitive environment that is good.
But once you have monopolies, you have fascism.

We do have elections. But because massive financial manipulation takes place, your vote has little value.

The system is set up to prevent what happened in 2016. Normally government media and pac money and censorship are enough. But not in 2016, which is why the Intelligence Agencies and Federal Law Enforcement went into action.

So this is a Fascist State, that because of the setback of 2016 has had to take more extreme actions and have thereby made the nature of things more obvious to even the dumbest among us. Well... almost.



Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16438 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:25 pm to
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America is a Fascist State


Yes. The entire Dem swamp including Rinos are fascist by definition.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12107 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:30 pm to
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America is a fascist state


Absolutely correct 100%.

Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:39 pm to
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It's not business that's good, it's free enterprise in a competitive environment that is good.
But once you have monopolies, you have fascism.


Spot on.
Posted by Tasty Thrill
Member since Oct 2023
809 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:40 pm to
Democrats 2023 vs Nazis 1939:

Socialists - check

Disarm the population - check

Silence dissent - check

Media control and propaganda that would make Joseph Goebbels proud - check

Violence and intimidation against opponents - check

Eliminate police and install their "brown shirts" in their place - check

Preach hatred of and place blame on a certain ethnic group (Jews 1939 - Whites, especially White males 2023) "The Squad" still preaches their bitter anti-Semitic rhetoric. - check

A figure they revere as a God for their leader (Hitler 1939 - Obama 2023) - check

Last but not least...we will have to deal with them the same way Nazis were dealt with in 1939-45 - check
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7367 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:46 pm to
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America is a Fascist State


Dummies will disagree, but there is such a thing as government and corporations working hand in hand to to bring products to market by skirting rules and regulations so often it has a name "Regulatory Capture"
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68154 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:47 pm to

We aren't all that free.

Maybe we were never as free as the propaganda told us we were for several decades, but we believed it.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68887 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:47 pm to
The lefty voters are the commies, they want their collectivism.

They just dont realize they vote for fascists and only think Politicians with an R next to their name are fascists.



Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
4225 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:51 pm to
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The government works in conjunction with the mega billionaires and super corporations to control things. That's fascism.
That's corporatism (more or less), which was an aspect of fascism.

However, fascism was nationalistic and was very much opposed to globalism.

For all practical purposes, fascism ceased to exist decades ago. We don't have to give everything an early 20th century label.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15697 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:54 pm to
All the dystopian shite that music and film has predicted in the past 40 years is coming true. And most people can’t even see it.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19385 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:10 pm to
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The government works in conjunction with the mega billionaires and super corporations to control things. That's fascism.


Fascism was a reaction to the social changes in Europe, and it was an attempt to preserve traditional life. You saw that in Germany, Italy, Portugal, and Spain. If we want everything to stay as it is, then everything must change*. In each case, Fascism was firmly bounded up in nationalism, and the belief that there was a people, be they German, Italian, Portuguese or Spanish, and there was a national good that must serve their interests.

I understand why you make the linkage, when academics try and define Fascism, they talk about the fusion of the state and private enterprise, but what the Facists were doing was chaining private enterprise to the state.

What we have is much simpler, and much older, it's just simple oligarchy. It's not any different than what the Greeks knew. Technology unfortunately gives our modern oligarchs unprecedented power and control over ordinary people though, and in tremendously dark ways.


The technocrats are also the product of nominalism and they aren't restrained by any rational moral framework. They have no sense that anyone has any inherent worth or value, other than themselves.


*Se vogliamo che tutto rimanga com'è bisogna che tutto cambi
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112584 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:10 pm to
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We aren't all that free.


And when did our freedom start to decline? When lots of people said 'There oughtta be a law!'
But most of those 'The govt oughtta do something!' types were not allowed to vote. Then the 19th amendment was passed.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19385 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:16 pm to
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And when did our freedom start to decline? When lots of people said 'There oughtta be a law!'
But most of those 'The govt oughtta do something!' types were not allowed to vote. Then the 19th amendment was passed.



Westerners been writing about this since at least the 19th century. Lord Acton, who wrote that absolute power corrupts absolutely, was worried about it. Technology is why we're less free, because it empowers fewer and fewer people to exert more and more control over the masses.

Industrialization is probably when things got worse for most people. Up to that time, ordinary people were masters of their fate in a way that we don't appreciate.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4435 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:16 pm to
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However, fascism was nationalistic and was very much opposed to globalism.


Marching into Paris was their Globalism. LoosIng the CIA on Ukraine was ours. When the democrats import a few million more "voters", stock the military with them, and eliminate the electoral college, they will see a 1000 years of future rule ahead.

I don't know what they will call themselves once the Great Reset is complete. But they will be an empire that stretches from Australia to what is left of Ukraine. And Amerika will be effectively a province.

Call it oligarchy, Corporatocracy, plutocracy,state capitalism whatever... it's not freedom.

And it surely isn't communism. In a way it's worse than communism because at least communists maintained a sense of national identity. Under this system we are losing not only our freedom but our sense of self. They are literally importing our replacements as though we are worn out tires or junk for the heap.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by joseywales1
Member since Apr 2021
56 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:57 pm to
one of the best post I've read. (short, easy to read and 100% correct)!
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
3934 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:17 pm to
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The government works in conjunction with the mega billionaires and super corporations to control things. That's fascism


Congrats, understanding this has made you an official Marxist.

However it's not the government working in conjunction. The government is a tool, not an entity. The rich control the tool. Your hammer isn't in cohoots with you, you're just using it.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17993 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:20 pm to
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The government is a tool, not an entity. The rich control the tool.

Not that either party is blameless, but which party do you think is more closely aligned with those that control the tool/government?
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
482 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:24 pm to
I would say the federal reserve creation was the beginning of the end. In the end it will be worldwide socialism.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
3934 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Not that either party is blameless,


I agree.

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which party do you think is more closely aligned with those that control the tool/government?


Absolutely the reoublican party. The one that votes for massive industry deregulation, encourages regulatory capture and is responsible for the obscene transfer of wealth from the poor to the already rich. At least the dems try to pretend they support labor and show up sometimes.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:28 pm to
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However, fascism was nationalistic and was very much opposed to globalism. For all practical purposes, fascism ceased to exist decades ago. We don't have to give everything an early 20th century label.


It’s globofascism
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