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re: America is for sale: Japan buys US Steel

Posted on 12/18/23 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
489 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 4:52 pm to
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It’s unfortunate, but Nippon buying out US Steel will probably be a great thing for domestic capabilities.


Mad respect. I'm not in steel but factory / power plant maintenance management across a few different industries.

The Japanese have always had more sound manufacturing execution than us. We rejected Deming and they took notes.

I'd say from an operational standpoint, having a no-nonsense Japanese culture take over almost any American one is going to improve performance. I'm not talking about all types of work, but focusing on anything involving heavy capital, manufacturing, etc.

It shouldn't be this way, but this is where we are. The MBA's / non technical fuccbois run things in American industrial companies and it shows.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 4:55 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13510 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:05 am to
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We rejected Deming and they took notes.


This and this. Heck most thought him a crackpot.

One summer at Auburn I could not get a job anywhere and my grandmother got me one at a company in her town. It was hammering "s-irons" in the ends of railroad ties. And lucky me because it was a temporary summer job I got an immediate opening on the "switch tie line". It was for longer ties, and the stacks to hammer were out in the weather, rain or shine, straddling the rail lines of a stack tie operator swinging them back and forth over your head while he smoked spliffs all day. The forklift guys you really had to look out for because crank was popular with them.

The rep for US steel had a rush order and that union puke stood over me with an umbrella in the pouring rain and pointed out to me which ties he wanted re-ironed.

They all referred to me as college boy. Every Friday I would sit and help a bunch of them figure out their timecards for them cause they didnt trust the company.

When I left the supervisor said "College boy you sure taught me a lesson, never thought you would last, you busted your arse like you had to work to eat". And I told him, naw you fellas taught me more than you will ever know.

I am a college boy from Auburn and I have a masters from Tulane, but a guarantee you I know more about running a sales and distribution company, from California to Virginia, Russia to London, Miami to South America. Thousands and thousands of hours sweating my arse on route trucks and warehouses, having accountants take me through their books, learning what was right or wrong about their businesses, all while my counterparts played golf, hit the strip clubs and went to superbowls.

Yeah I have an MBA but I learned more that summer with an MBWA (manage by walking around and observing) than I ever did in a classroom, and I assure you more than those on this site who disparage us college boys
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 7:13 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39613 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 8:34 am to
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The Japanese have always had more sound manufacturing execution than us. We rejected Deming and they took notes.

No. The Japanese were beating us back then because they had a homogeneous workforce willing to work for half the price of an American worker, and they would work 70 hours per week. Plus they didn't have unions demanding that a pipefitter couldn't plug in a welding machine.
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