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'Diversity is our strength' poison pill

Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
489 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:18 pm
I'm trying to answer a family member who is liberal and supportive of leftist causes, but not due to the typical reasons of leftists - ie envy, seeing world as oppressor vs oppressed, or just being a complete loser. Instead his view is derived from his interpretation of the intent of the country - a beacon for all, etc.

I don't think this is what the Founding Fathers intended. They'd roll in their graves if they saw what is happening here and in Europe. Best I can come up with is John Adams - “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” And this is already a strong argument. It informs us that you must have a consensus on 'right vs wrong' if you expect a Constitutional Republic to work out. Also I don't think freedom of religion was an open endorsement that diluting say Europe with Muslims was advisable, and so I think that concept gets overused. (Funny, those who do that don't get so excited about the rest of 1A or 2A at all).

At some point the poison pill of 'diversity is our strength' entered our consciousness and I don't think the FF's believed our strength was diversity. So I'm looking for more historical evidence to prove this. Thanks in advance
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79328 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:24 pm to
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Diversity is our strength

Could not be further from the truth.

Equal opportunity would be better suited bc the strong hands prevail and the weak hands get shaken out regardless of color and socioeconomic background. Building a team should consist of the brightest minds, not a rainbow of colors.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68156 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:28 pm to
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the intent of the country - a beacon for all, etc.


If America commits suicide, there will be no more beacon.

The world will default back to a collection of authoritarian nations with no American exceptionalism as a model.
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
1193 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:29 pm to
Being Diverse is what America is all about, a melting pot of diverse cultures, races and and ideas that’s what makes America great not the anti culture, anti race mixing or conservative ideas sorry those are only washed up conservative idea of what America was
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21768 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:32 pm to
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a beacon for all


To come and take part in the American dream, not bring your own ideological baggage or freeloading tendencies with you.

EDIT: If the dangers of the 2 aforementioned issues aren't obvious to the person you're speaking with, you're likely starting from a point that's too far from where they're at to get through to them and are probably better off just ending the discussion.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14280 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:33 pm to
The United States has imported all of their problems throughout history.
Posted by Frank Belavis
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2020
140 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:35 pm to
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“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Extremely wise words. When the "majority" is Atheist in some capacity, neither the color nor the ethnic background of the constituents will matter; the Nation is doomed.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4478 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:47 pm to
Putting the emphasis on our differences has been our downfall, just as the Marxists intended.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16322 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:49 pm to
“Diversity of what?”

And then ask for the list of countries demonstrating this.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19663 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:59 pm to
Looking around NYC's diversity, it is clear that some cultural groups build success and others do not. Some people turn old and run-down neighborhoods into thriving places with low crime, higher home prices and better schools.

Others, do not.

Merit should be the only basis for immigration.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56446 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:14 pm to
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'Diversity is our strength'
So if we have a bunch of people of different backgrounds, and everyone intermarries (which they definitely want us to do), after 1 or 2 generations, where's the 'diversity?'

If what they claim to desire is diversity of ideas and opinions, with the internet and today's technology, you don't need to be in physical proximity to others to get that.

No, it's just destruction of western culture and identity.
Posted by joeyjoejoeshabadoo
DeRidder
Member since Aug 2020
429 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:18 pm to
Growing up, they put our parish's gifted program at the lowest performing school to bring up the average leap score.

The teachers repeated this exact phrase as an unofficial school motto.

The goal was brainwash the smart kids into feeling guilty for not wanting to be there.
Posted by TBPland
League City, TX
Member since Sep 2009
1403 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:34 pm to
Diversity brings everyone down to the lowest common denominator. KJP a prime example, dumb as hair
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261474 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:39 pm to
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'diversity is our strength'


Diversity only matters in the realm of ideas.

Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11519 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:00 pm to
Absolute and total baloney as it presumes assimilation by those entering, to include some of those already here.

When we no longer continue to laud differences around nationalities; ethnicity, gender, sexual preference and race with senseless celebrations and set aside events then we have hope. Until then, it is all about the intentional divide by and for who benefit - politicians, race hustlers, and the organizations which flourish accordingly
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