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re: Sue and settle fricks US immigration policy for 8 years

Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:16 pm to
Are there stats on the percentage of cases that are approved/denied? And what happens when they are denied 5 years later, and the person has kids in school, has a job, etc?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:17 pm to
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Are there stats on the percentage of cases that are approved/denied?

I posted a graph on the last page.

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And what happens when they are denied 5 years later, and the person has kids in school, has a job, etc?

Deported.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:04 pm to
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The courts can only handle so many cases at any given time.


Dude.

Judge: "Are you from Honduras? "

"Si."

:youhavetogoback:
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Judge: "Are you from Honduras? "

"Si."

:youhavetogoback:


Is your argument that a person from Honduras can't make a valid argument for asylum? That's pretty mental.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46286 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:18 pm to
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No. Asylum law requires oppressed to stay in first country they come where they are not persecuted. That means Mexico for the most part.


The Mexican government and the Mexican cartels are in partnership, facilitating the movement of millions of illegals to the US southern border......and then there's the partnership between the Mexican cartels and the CCP to deliver fentanyl/poison to the USA.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2051 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:19 pm to
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Fantasy land without the rule of law.


You keep using the phrase "rule of law", but I'm not sure what law you are talking about in this instance.
Biden signing a settlement with the ACLU doesn't change any law. Changing a law requires the legislative branch.

So on what basis would a judge issue a court order directing a future administration to abide by the settlement?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Is your argument that a person from Honduras can't make a valid argument for asylum?


A individual person has virtually no argument for asylum given it's designed for persecuted groups.

What's going on in Honduras that would qualify?

Corrupt economically unviable shithole doesn't coun't.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Fantasy land without the rule of law.


What retarded alternate universe do you live in?

Mass lawlessness has been the norm in a country shared with democrats since 2016

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:45 pm to
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What's going on in Honduras that would qualify?

As I stated earlier, a shite ton of sectarian violence from criminal organizations. That's where it gets grey-ish, at least initially.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:47 pm to
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Biden signing a settlement with the ACLU doesn't change any law.

It creates a binding order on the government, via legal process.

This order is based on the authority of existing statutes, if that's what you were fishing for...

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Changing a law requires the legislative branch

...which you were.

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So on what basis would a judge issue a court order directing a future administration to abide by the settlement?

The consent of the parties via statutory authority.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140692 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:47 pm to
Yeah. But the US doesn’t border Honduras.

We are importing straight trash.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:00 pm to
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But the US doesn’t border Honduras.

That's irrelevant unless we can make another agreement with Mexico
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:00 pm to
It isn't grey.

That doesn't warrant asylum unless every person in every corrupt shithole can be granted asylum.

That's just what trash lawyers and judges have made the norm.

It's not the law.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:01 pm to
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That's irrelevant unless we can make another agreement with Mexico


It was until a trash lawyer argued it to a trash judge and everyone just went along.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140692 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:07 pm to
It’s not. We can tell them hell fricking no and send them back.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7536 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:28 pm to
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Or we could just invest in Central America and Gain exponentially more benefits without the risk of economic migration being so alluring. Better them than China.


Unless it involves sending a personalized check to each individual in a central or South American country, immigrants are willing to risk their lives to come here to live on or dole.


Spending money in some of these countries to establish businesses or fund government is like setting your money on fire or handing it to a warlord because it will never get to those that actually need it.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2051 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:07 am to
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the authority of existing statutes,

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via statutory authority


So you assert that there is an existing law that grants the current administration the authority to make irrevocable policy decisions for all future administrations?

That would seem to be a very broad, inherently abusable power. It would also seem to touch on significant constitutional issues. What are the limiting principals and checks on this power?
I don't suppose you could point me to this particular statute?
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