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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:28 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:Those KIA numbers for Russia are absurd, a credible number of KIA for Russia is just shy of 40K and over half a million for Ukraine.
Russia has taken almost 2 years and 120,000+ KIA to date
quote:Russia has the most powerful military in the world along with some of the most advanced weapons systems and unlike the West, has the industrial capacity to pump out endless armaments, so Russia could crush NATO but that’s not nor never was its objective.
Does he have the military strength or political power to invade Finland, Poland, and the Baltic states as people are saying?
This post was edited on 12/9/23 at 4:30 am
Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:36 am to rmnldr
quote:Nonsense. Russia has shown enormous restraint and could have and can, if it chooses, take Kyiv. When it’s all done and dusted, only Western Ukraine, which has never had ethnic links to Russia, will be left.
Maybe at the start of the war. Not anymore.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:58 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:People are so damn gullible. Putin was never coming for Finland or Poland.
Does he have the military strength or political power to invade Finland, Poland, and the Baltic states as people are saying?
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:01 am to bucknut
We don't truly know, but the number is higher than the number of US casualties in the entire Vietnam War.
That's a huge sacrifice for a war that is supposed to be an opening gambit. At this point its hard to imagine Russia would have the intestinal fortitude to keep on knocking down dominoes if they are eventually successful in Ukraine.
That's a huge sacrifice for a war that is supposed to be an opening gambit. At this point its hard to imagine Russia would have the intestinal fortitude to keep on knocking down dominoes if they are eventually successful in Ukraine.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:03 am to TigerDoc
quote:
he'll do what he can to weaken the alliance.
We don't need alliances anymore. It's not 1960. We won, no one can compete with us.
It's just military welfare.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:04 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:Success in Ukraine would have been the occupation of Kyiv. That bird has flown.
if they are eventually successful in Ukraine.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:13 am to Jax-Tiger
Nothing. Putin will get what he needs from Ukraine and back off. They are not looking for an all out war. Can’t afford it. No reason to.
This is all on NATO for breaking the deal they had
This is all on NATO for breaking the deal they had
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:19 am to Jax-Tiger
Georgia then AZERBAIJAN via Armenia. This worries me, as the Muslim "President" of Turkey will engage to finish killing the Orthodox Christians in Armenia while protecting Azerbaijan.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:28 am to Jax-Tiger
Ferment a separatist movement in the Semipalatinsk region of Kazakhstan.
I mean it is a recipe he's used before: S. Ossesitia- Georgia, Donbass- ukraine.
I mean it is a recipe he's used before: S. Ossesitia- Georgia, Donbass- ukraine.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:28 am to Jax-Tiger
This war is not about taking over Europe but rather not wanting NATO nations up against his borders. Russia & NATO had agreements of such that NATO crawfished on
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:31 am to I20goon
after victory, putin's next move would be to rebuild the nord stream pipeline that biden blew up. germany would agree as they are part owners.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:32 am to Jax-Tiger
Lick his wounds, resupply and shore up anti-US Alliances as the US goes down via an internal struggle pitting Transnational Progressive Authoritarians vs traditional Constitutional Republic patriots who defend their God given Freedom. The open Border assures a bloody street fight spilling over into the Burbs and Hinterlands as essential services infrastructure disappears. I well remember standing in line at Walmart and being limited re toilet paper. That was cake in relation to what the next round will be.
The heathens will be loosed upon us by the Transnational Progressives, I.e. the Facists Dems. Lord have mercy on them who love.
The heathens will be loosed upon us by the Transnational Progressives, I.e. the Facists Dems. Lord have mercy on them who love.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:35 am to RCDfan1950
Addendum: It will be interesting to see who (what Religion) Putin chooses as the Mullahs in Iran will indeed seek to take down the Jewish State of Israel. That will means that the Jews cut loose with the nukes as they vow "never again" and will fulfill prophecy re "blood up to the bridle of a horse..." in the ME.
Get Jesus if that is an option. Politics ain't gonna cut it.
Get Jesus if that is an option. Politics ain't gonna cut it.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:52 am to Jax-Tiger
He is going to attack NATO of course. After that,he comes for america. I have no doubt he plans to conquer outer space after he has defeated everyone on earth.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:34 am to momentoftruth87
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This whole thing was to push nato back and was started because NATO & US.
Partially true. But you’ve missed the mark.
Russia has a history of being invaded from almost every direction for millennia. They have few defense-able natural boarders. Their national psyche is paranoia. So the history of the Russian Empire and the Russian dominated USSR was to push their boarders outward in all directions to defense-able terrain. After the breakup of the USSR much of the conquered border peoples gained their independence.
They therefore fear their neighbors, and Europe and America are the most powerful of them. They have been trying to reconnect these territories back under their control through alliances or armed intervention. Two Chechen wars, invasion of Georgia, and two invasions of Ukraine are the result.
NATO was no threat to them, but because of their past history, their paranoia is their reality. Poland and other Eastern Europeans, the Baltics, and the Balkans joined NATO for defense against their past history of occupation and domination by the Russian Empire and the USSR. NATO never planned on invading Russia, because trading with Russia was lucrative and Russia has enough nukes to effectively destroy NATO. But Russian paranoia will never allow them to believe this.
So yes, Russia blames NATO intentions, but the reality is Russian paranoia not NATO intentions caused this war.
Unfortunately for Russia, even if they manage to occupy every square inch of Ukraine, they have lost this war.
Their paranoia of NATO has backfired. Their NATO border has expanded to Finland that was neutral but deferential to Russia, and Sweden that had dropped their centuries old neutrality. The explanation of NATO into Scandinavia is a devastating strategic defeat that worsened their paranoid situation overall including a potential complete victory in Ukraine.
Economically they are devastated. They have lost their lucrative trade with the West. Europe will replace their energy purchases from Russia. Western investment of capital, technology, and management is over. Putin’s nationalization of Western firms is the period at the end of this sentence. Their largest current trade partners China and India are buying fuel at a discounted rate and are forcing Russia to trade with their currencies. This is greatly pressuring the Ruble! Also this opens up a new problem as Chinese and Indian former suppliers switch their full priced products to the former customers of Russia. Russia has further lost potential arms exports due to the perceived poor performance of their weapons.
Politically, Russian prestige has crashed internationally because of their inept military performance. An alliance with them is now less valuable. Their arms are less valuable, their military power is less valuable, and their economic aid is less valuable.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:47 am to momentoftruth87
quote:
This whole thing was to push nato back and was started because NATO & US.
True. It's called 'encirclement' and it's caused wars throughout history.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:24 am to Jax-Tiger
Consolidate his power in Eastern Ukraine and then attempt being a shot caller in the rest of Ukraine. As far as any adventures beyond that, probably not ......ar least for 5 or 6 years.
100K dead is a big number to make up.
100K dead is a big number to make up.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:32 am to I20goon
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Ferment a separatist movement in the Semipalatinsk region of Kazakhstan.
I believe they already have enough vodka over there already.
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