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re: Beatles obsession thread
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Were you old enough in '64 to have watched Sullivan and known what was going on? If so...please say more!
I have two very vivid memories of Beatlemania....
First was The Ed Sullivan Show. I was almost four and we we're all at my grandparents and I distinctly remember them bitching about their hair saying they looked like girls. I don't recall their musical critique, but there was obviously hype leading up to it since they made an appointment to watch.
The second is being with my dad in the rear of a restaurant and all the kids on the kitchen and serving staff huddled around an AM radio to hear the new release by The Beatles. I wish I could remember the song, but I'm thinking something from the winter of 1964-65. When it came on the girls starting getting all excited.
Personally I became a fan of The Bealtes concurrently with becoming fans of their solo careers. Interestingly (or maybe not), each was my favorite at one time: Ringo at 12, then Paul, then John, then Paul again and finally George. And for whatever reason George's songs are the ones that have stuck with me the longest, maybe because he seemed the most spiritual and least egotistical (although what ego does Ringo have?).
They were the best group in history and it's a well earned distinction.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:20 pm to Mizz-SEC
quote:During this latest bit of obsession, I've become much more acquainted with the deeper catalogues of the solo careers. I was always sort of just a John homer. But reading all these books has made me appreciate Paul (both inside and outside The Beatles) infinitely more.
Personally I became a fan of The Bealtes concurrently with becoming fans of their solo careers. Interestingly (or maybe not), each was my favorite at one time: Ringo at 12, then Paul, then John, then Paul again and finally George. And for whatever reason George's songs are the ones that have stuck with me the longest, maybe because he seemed the most spiritual and least egotistical (although what ego does Ringo have?).
I really just never listened to George at all, but I agree - it's kind of ironic that the little brother they sort of left out all those years ended up putting out such an amazing body of solo work. And even Ringo! He has a lot of solo stuff that is pretty good.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:29 am to Big Scrub TX
Nearly 55 years since they last played together and they are still very popular.
that's some staying power.
that's some staying power.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:00 am to cgrand
"the Beatles changed everything and they did it all in less time than most band take between albums or tours
there is no comparison and they have no peers"
That's really the best way to say it. They literally changed everything around them. ... music, they changed how records were produced, fashion,..
Watch the movie "A Hard Days Night" and then watch "Magical Mystery Tour". Then realize they're just 3 years apart.
there is no comparison and they have no peers"
That's really the best way to say it. They literally changed everything around them. ... music, they changed how records were produced, fashion,..
Watch the movie "A Hard Days Night" and then watch "Magical Mystery Tour". Then realize they're just 3 years apart.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:40 am to Big Scrub TX
I do remember the Sullivan appearance. My mother's family had a bar/restaurant and on Sundays we would all go watch Sullivan at the bar (they had a really good tv, and they closed on Sunday). When the Beatles were about to come on the show, there were some negative reactions from my grandparents and I thought the channel would be changed. Thankfully, my mother (it was her side of the family) intervened and told them I really wanted to watch them. Till he died some 10 years later, my gradfather still would ask me everytime I saw him, if I still liked that "long hair noise." As to their appearance, it was beyond anything I had seen. High energy and the shrieks from the audience still stand out in my mind.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:43 am to Big Scrub TX
Evrything you read about them was that they hated touring and wanted to concentrate more on their recordings. If that's what it took for them to make those classic recordings, its a choice I'm glad they made.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:45 am to TFTC
The first one that really stood out to me, was I Feel Fine. Never heard feedback on a record before and when the drums kicked in, the song just took off.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:18 am to tigermeat
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More amazing is the amount of posts on this site that say they were overrated or just a boy band.
Those are mainly edgy Millennials. Clueless.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:23 am to Big Scrub TX
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Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording The Beatles - written by sound engineer Geoff Emerick from the POV of the studio
Has anyone else read this? It's an amazing amount of detail from the studio.
One takeaway is how meticulous Paul was. He would do things like stay until all hours, painstakingly recording basslines note by note.
On the other side, I was surprised how flippant John was in the studio. e.g. He would record his parts, but then have almost zero interest in the engineering work that went in to achieving his aims. He'd say "I want this to sound like I'm yodeling from the moon" - and then he'd leave, just expecting Emmerick to be able to get that!
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:26 am to Big Scrub TX
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Do you remember it being notable in the moment or was it more just like any other thing?
It was a big deal.
My older sisters would have been teenagers so the buzz of Beatlemania was already happening on Top 40 AM radio. The Rolling Stones appearance on Ed Sullivan was pretty memorable too. I think my earliest memory of music from my sisters' radio dial setting was more Motown/ R&B, Chuck Berry, Everly Bros, etc. The British Invasion assisted by the Ed Sullivan Show changed the whole landscape of popular music in the US.
A few years later (late 60's early 70's) FM radio gets traction with "albums" and songs over 3 minutes. Steppenwolf with Magic Carpet Ride...., Grand Funk with Closer to Home....., The Guess Who with American Woman...., CCR with Suszy Q. And then came Led Zepplin, Deep Purple, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Pink Floyd etc. with some of the early hard rock anthems......on FM radio.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:44 am to Bass Tiger
quote:And, of course, it was the Beatles who basically innovated this with With the Beatles:
FM radio gets traction with "albums" and songs over 3 minutes.
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![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Withthebeatlescover.jpg)
They basically hired a famous fashion photog instead of just doing the more casual thing from all earlier albums. "LPs" overnight became "albums". They weren't just random groups of songs, but more a presentation as a whole. This bit of art accelerated pop music's move out of the "blue collar ghetto" and into all sectors of society. And this was in '63 - prior to Sullivan.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 12:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
just realized today is the 22nd anniversary of George’s death. He died at one of Paul McCartneys homes in Los Angeles today in 2001
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:04 pm to cgrand
quote:Yep. It was a pretty great act of kindness on Paul's part, as George desperately wanted privacy. It's amazing they were able to get him there secretly.
He died at one of Paul McCartneys homes in Los Angeles today in 2001
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
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One takeaway is how meticulous Paul was. He would do things like stay until all hours, painstakingly recording basslines note by note.
It's pretty clear John was the driver to get them to the top and Paul was the driver to keep them there.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:02 pm to pmacneworleans
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The first one that really stood out to me, was I Feel Fine. Never heard feedback on a record before and when the drums kicked in, the song just took off.
That was the first song in recording history of guitar feedback being used in a song.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
Feb 9, 1964 a young MMM was hanging on the couch after Sunday fried chicken. The black and white was tuned to the Ed Sullivan show, as it always was on Sunday night. Little did he know about the major life-changing event that was about to happen.
The Mop Tops got up and did their Beatley thing. I was totally entranced by the mania afterwards. Every night after school a program would come on WJBO (I think it was) called Beatlemania. My teenage aunts and I never missed a show. We saw A Hard Days Night at The Paramount in downtown BR when it came out. In 1965 we got them in full color with Help! on the big screen. We'd buy the rekkids the day they were released. I still have them.
But, it was that February evening that I knew exactly what I wanted to be when I grew up: a TV variety show host, so I could meet all the cool bands.
I became a guitarist/songwriter/singer instead.
The Mop Tops got up and did their Beatley thing. I was totally entranced by the mania afterwards. Every night after school a program would come on WJBO (I think it was) called Beatlemania. My teenage aunts and I never missed a show. We saw A Hard Days Night at The Paramount in downtown BR when it came out. In 1965 we got them in full color with Help! on the big screen. We'd buy the rekkids the day they were released. I still have them.
But, it was that February evening that I knew exactly what I wanted to be when I grew up: a TV variety show host, so I could meet all the cool bands.
I became a guitarist/songwriter/singer instead.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:36 pm to pmacneworleans
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:22 am to Mizz-SEC
quote:I can pretty much agree with this.
It's pretty clear John was the driver to get them to the top and Paul was the driver to keep them there.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:54 pm to Big Scrub TX
Best description of their impact is on the plaque in Liverpool - " Four lads, who shook the world ". It's still shaking. Their impact on music and culture can't be measured.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 2:05 pm to tiger81
quote:I'm looking forward to going there and doing the deep tour of obscure sites.
Best description of their impact is on the plaque in Liverpool - " Four lads, who shook the world ". It's still shaking. Their impact on music and culture can't be measured.
Seriously - 4 punks from fricking LIVERPOOL!
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