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re: Map of the 12 Tribes of Israel

Posted on 11/10/23 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 2:33 pm to
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Got new legs and a haircut, then (ironically) married a nice Asian lady.

Forrest: "Lt Dan, you got new lages!"
Lt Dan: (taps them with a cane) "Titanium alloy"!
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 2:49 pm to
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Ok? What’s the significance of “400+”?
It's called mathematics. You should learn about it.


How does it feel to be unconsciously incompetent?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Ok? What’s the significance of “400+”?


also, what is the significance of 12 tribes, when they are on lands of the Ottomans and the Romans?

The map is shoddy as is much "scholarship" of the region; shoddy even to today.

and MOST SIGNIFICANT - the map doesnt show the existence of even the first ancestor of the Askenaz who likely NEVER gave any creedence to jewry until they needed them to trade as Khazars on the trade routes.

and of course, reap the benefits of the Balfour Declaration of the Rothschilds and the Zionist racism and genocide crimes:

"give one country that you don't own to a second country that also doesn't own it, and make the owners hide or leave and endure the resulting theft"
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Well, the Native Americans say hello.

Their maps and borders constantly changed too because, just like everywhere else in the world, when there's no other race to fight against and kill, we fight amongst and kill our own kind.

It's the human condition, and it's inescapable.

It's why I get so angry when "intellectual heavyweights" like Neil Degrasse Tyson go on record very publicly with asinine statements that this is a pattern of behavior that is exclusive only to European white people.

Let's not bother looking at the Dynasties in ancient China or the endless warring that continues to this day in Africa, or the Turkish/Armenian thing that NDG seems to not be aware of, or any other myriad conflicts/genocides/conquering that have occured worldwide that are historically accurate and relevant that had nothing to do with "white" people.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Map of the 12 Tribes of Israel by Blutarsky..which happens to be 400+ years before Islam was created.


So your map starts at 1200BCE. That’s 1800 years before “Islam was created” if you consider that to be around 600CE or around the time Mohammed allegedly existed. I know others have posted this but thought I’d pile on.

It’s worth mentioning that this map is nowhere near historical. For example, Israel never possessed Tyre… that was a Phoenician city. The inheritances of the tribes in Joshua is a make believe map that never really existed. Those tribes never controlled those lands in that way.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Pretty sure the Jews have that covered.

Thank you Lord Rothschild. Thank you Ambassador Balfour

Thank you to Zionist racists amd the underLIEing Ashkenzim

Thank you Presidents Truman, Roosevelt Hoover Harding Wilson Eisenhower Johnson Nixon Carter Reagan

Thank you 5 generations of American and British taxpayers
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:06 pm to
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If the "Twelve Tribes" ever actually existed (which they did not),


They kind of sort of existed but not in the way described in the Bible. In reality, they were all separate tribes that all pooled together eventually under a common master king… a king of kings. It was done for political reasons and for protection from adversaries - like a confederation or military alliance.

For example, the land of the tribe of Dan (adjacent to Philistia) was possessed by the Danuna people which were the same “sea peoples” of the Aegean Sea that were settled in the land by Egypt when they defeated and signed a treaty with the sea peoples. The leader of the sea peoples of Danuna joined in an alliance with the Semitic/Canaanite people called the Israelites. The Philistines did not join in their alliance, and hence were never considered to be a tribe of Israel.

Also consider most of the (partially true, partially fake) history was written by Judeans and there was a lot of embellishment.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:10 pm to
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Well, the Native Americans say hello.
Their maps and borders constantly changed too because, just like everywhere else in the world, when there's no other race to fight against and kill, we fight amongst and kill our own kind.
I was doing some research on the Comanche last week, and learned that they were driven out of Montana and Wyoming in the 17th century or so, and that they did not become the bad-asses known on the South Plains in the 19th century until they reached Texas and adapted to their new environment.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:11 pm to
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And if made properly, you use Russian dressing.



Yes! This is true.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Map of the 12 Tribes of Israel

Don't see how this is relevant at all

Borders change all the time. A map of something over 3000 years ago means absolutely nothing.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11348 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:17 pm to
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If the "Twelve Tribes" ever actually existed (which they did not)


Dude, you really are a moron.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7312 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:20 pm to
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That map is inaccurate. Benjamin never conquored Jerusalem. That's just one issue.


Benjamin: The smallest of the tribes. The first king, Saul, was of the tribe of Benjamin and was head and shoulders taller in stature than the other men around him.

When Saul was king and the Philistine champion, Goliath, threatened and taunted the armies of Israel, a much younger (and smaller) David of the tribe of Judah, came forward and killed Goliath with a sling and a stone. The interesting thing about this is that it was the tribe of Benjamin that was well-known for using the sling as a weapon. So, David killed Goliath with the very weapon that Saul should have been proficient with.

Another note about the men of the tribe of Benjamin - they were noted for being predominantly left-handed.

The area of Jerusalem, however, was not captured by Israel until David was king after Saul. Israel had taken root in the Promised Land under Joshua, but throughout the years of the judges the land was not entirely conquered and taken away from the Canaanites, Amalekites, Amorites, and others. Saul was deposed from his throne because he did not utterly destroy and kill every man, woman, child, and living beast of the Amalekites.

Saul's successor, David, accomplished the complete conquest of the land shown on the map that you question.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7743 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:47 pm to
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You only really own what you can defend and protect.



Try not paying your property tax if you think you own your land.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 4:46 pm to
In revelation and the mention of the 144,000, there is no mention of the tribe of Dan. What happened to them?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 4:48 pm to
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Pretty sure the Jews have that covered

With or without the welfare and military handouts?
Posted by Nonc me
Member since Oct 2017
100 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:19 pm to
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whatever happened to Dan?


He ended up with the Miami Dolphins, great career he had there. Not really Sure where he is now.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:37 pm to
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Not really.

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Mo Jeaux


And here you are again with the bigtime palestinian sympathy. Why do you feel that way?
Do you not believe that in ancient times hebrew people occupied what is now israel ?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19385 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:33 pm to
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Kinda refutes the terrorist sympathizer claims that Israel should "go back to the rightful owners".


By this logic we should start handing the US back to the Indian tribes.

Genetic surveys show that the Palestinians and the Israelis are very closely related, and share the same origin in what we now call Israel.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21360 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:36 pm to
Some of evidence that King David existed.

House of David
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59042 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:37 pm to
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And here you are again with the bigtime palestinian sympathy. Why do you feel that way?
Do you not believe that in ancient times hebrew people occupied what is now israel ?


I think it’s silly to make an appeal to “ancient times” to support treating other people horribly.
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