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Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by mattfromnj
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:11 pm to
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According to the Jtimes link, Israel is ending its active invasion and occupation of southern Gaza.

Beginning of the end for Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran appears to be off for the time being.

I hope this is the beginning of the end of the war. The US experience after 9/11 largely proves you can’t exterminate extreme ideology with bombs and occupations.

Netanyahu has weakened Israel by falling asleep on October 6 and losing crucial support for Israel as a result of its post October 7 conduct. Hopefully he is gone soon. His time and utility for Israel has come and gone.



I'm more pessimistic than I was a while back too. I don't think Hamas will be destroyed by this war anymore than Hezbollah was destroyed in 2006. They've taken a beating but according to Israeli media they've already returned to parts of Gaza City and Khan Younis, only about a third of the tunnels have been destroyed and their rocket stockpile is apparently still in the thousands. The reason the blockade of northern Gaza is still going on is because Hamas is there and are distributing the aid that comes in, just as they are in Rafah.

Netanyahu has to know his career is over as soon as the war ends. The same way Israel had major political and military changes with the Winograd Commission after the 06 war, this one will be even worse. The amount of political/IDF/Mossad/Shin Bet firings and resignations over 10/7 is sure to be high.

Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:27 pm to
I can’t believe there are supposedly 100+ alive hostages still. I realize it’s densely populated, but the Gaza Strip is not a huge area…..it’s so sad they can’t find these hostages.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Netanyahu has to know his career is over as soon as the war ends. The same way Israel had major political and military changes with the Winograd Commission after the 06 war, this one will be even worse. The amount of political/IDF/Mossad/Shin Bet firings and resignations over 10/7 is sure to be high.



As I heard some talking head on TV say.: "When this war is actually over it will be the end of Netanyahu's term and political career, and the beginning of his prison sentence... so he's going to find every way there is to keep it ratcheted up."

But also... those cabinet and ministerial positions you speak of, in this administration with the coalition of the far Israeli right he had to depend on, they've been filled by the ultra-Orthodox... whose education is all religious and nothing practical. They are not led by expertise or rationality, but by faith (and, let's face it, an inclination towards apocalypse as the culmination of that faith). Getting rid of them will be a good thing.
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