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re: Detransitioner Sues Medical Professionals Who Gave Her A Double Mastectomy At 16
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:10 am to Auburn1968
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:10 am to Auburn1968
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A 21-year-old Nebraska woman filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the medical providers responsible for her “gender transition” surgery as a teenager.
This is how to kill this nonsense. Sue them into poverty. Then prosecute these assholes to the fullest extent of the law. Bury them under the prison.
Edit: Including the parents
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 11:16 am
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:12 am to Auburn1968
Umm when you frick around and find out, don’t blame others. Same person & family probably criticized others for telling them it’s dumb. Same people allowed their kid to buy into this. The kid should never have been listened to. Same people consented to this.
Hard to feel bad and this is why my stance is it shouldn’t be done but they’ll eventually learn when it’s too late. Want to be a freak, go for it.
Hard to feel bad and this is why my stance is it shouldn’t be done but they’ll eventually learn when it’s too late. Want to be a freak, go for it.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:12 am to wackatimesthree
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Not just those influences, but the medical "professionals" in these cases are not following ethical standards.
They are intentionally fear mongering the parents and intentionally withholding likely side effects and intentionally skewing the parent's perceptions of the risk-reward ratio.
They need to be held accountable for that sort of behavior.
The groomer docs sure do like that kind of "golden diagnosis." They promise that they are making it better for the kid and maybe prevent suicide, but trannies have an extremely high rate of suicide.
quote:NIH
Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:13 am to Auburn1968
Good. Those doctors swore an oath to “do no harm”.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:14 am to Auburn1968
frick this woman. This issue is her own fault and that of her parents.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:15 am to Indefatigable
Yeah doctors didn’t do this without consent. Good luck with their lawsuit.
And this isn’t me saying I defend the doctors. I’m not going to have rates go up because these idiots make a choice, then sue after they realize it was dumb. Fk em all.
And this isn’t me saying I defend the doctors. I’m not going to have rates go up because these idiots make a choice, then sue after they realize it was dumb. Fk em all.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:16 am to Auburn1968
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she was fast-tracked for the surgery by doctors on her first visit to the University of Nebraska Medical Center (UNMC) gender clinic,
I guarantee you that if she had come in wishing to have an arm or a leg removed because she identified as an amputee, there would have been absolutely zero rush by doctors to remove a limb. They probably would have recommended counseling and strongly pushed her to reconsider if not flat out refused to perform the surgery.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:17 am to i am dan
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Screw her and her family.
She was a minor with obvious mental health issues. She became the victim of malpractice. She holds zero fault.
We need this to start happening all across the country. What is happening to these children is evil, morally wrong, and again, malpractice. Before this crap took hold, the success rate for treating and reversing gender dysphoria was above 90% in the right hands.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:19 am to i am dan
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I think there is a HUGE amount of information out there which is very easily obtainable.
There's a huge amount of information that is easily obtainable to support or refute just about anything you want to support or refute.
The question is which of it is reliable information.
People without medical degrees cannot be expected to sift through that information and know better than someone who does. That's not the standard we use with just about any medical procedure.
The standard we use is that it is the medical provider's responsibility as someone who literally holds a patient's life and/or health in his or her hands to provide accurate, clear, and complete information to the patient so that he or she can make an informed decision. Anything less is medical fraud.
I have no problem with "eff the parents" if the practitioners had told them about all of the side-effects, told them that the girl would likely outgrow the angst, and hadn't used the old, "Would you rather have a live son or a dead daughter?" line. If that's the way it had gone down, fine, no problem, they knew what they were signing up for.
But when you hide or skew the information and intentionally bully the parents into doing this, sorry, but you have crossed an ethical line.
Trust me, you don't want to take away all responsibility for doctors to handle patient communication correctly and ethically.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:22 am to wackatimesthree
I guarantee they told them the effects but I guarantee they also wanted the money. Yes medical is to blame but suing after consent is dumb asf.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:23 am to Flats
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I think this is where I land. Yeah, the doc might be a pos but financially liable? They requested a service, he provided it.
So a doctor can lie to a patient about or purposefully withhold likely outcomes and potentially life-threatening risks and that's o.k. because the patient requested a consultation to find out whether they were a candidate for the procedure?
I shouldn't be surprised any more at the stances that end up being popular here, but somehow I still am.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:25 am to momentoftruth87
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I guarantee they told them the effects
I am just as confident that they did not.
There's plenty of whistleblower information out there confirming that what this woman is alleging is almost certainly true.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:25 am to i am dan
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and medical facilities should think twice about doing this.
You're almost there.
How do you suppose they'll get the message?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:36 am to Auburn1968
Get Gordon time for these frickers.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:37 am to wackatimesthree
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So a doctor can lie to a patient about or purposefully withhold likely outcomes and potentially life-threatening risks
Do we know that happened here? Her parents carry the bulk of the blame imo, but I like personal responsibility.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:39 am to wackatimesthree
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There's a huge amount of information that is easily obtainable to support or refute just about anything you want to support or refute.
The question is which of it is reliable information.
People without medical degrees cannot be expected to sift through that information and know better than someone who does. That's not the standard we use with just about any medical procedure.
The standard we use is that it is the medical provider's responsibility as someone who literally holds a patient's life and/or health in his or her hands to provide accurate, clear, and complete information to the patient so that he or she can make an informed decision. Anything less is medical fraud.
I have no problem with "eff the parents" if the practitioners had told them about all of the side-effects, told them that the girl would likely outgrow the angst, and hadn't used the old, "Would you rather have a live son or a dead daughter?" line. If that's the way it had gone down, fine, no problem, they knew what they were signing up for.
But when you hide or skew the information and intentionally bully the parents into doing this, sorry, but you have crossed an ethical line.
Trust me, you don't want to take away all responsibility for doctors to handle patient communication correctly and ethically.
Good points. I bet the pro-transitioning website created by the medical field and federal govt probably make it all look like rainbows and happiness to transition... lies.
Trust me, I'm not looking at this as all black and white. There's plenty of gray area. I agree.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:41 am to m2pro
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How do you suppose they'll get the message?
Make it illegal instead of enriching the ambulance chasers. We restrict tattoos, no reason we can’t do this.
If the guy lied that’s another matter, but I don’t like suing people for legal things. They’d love to do that to the gun industry, so be careful of the methods you’re cheering on.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:45 am to i am dan
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Screw her and her family. This bull shite is their fault from the start. The family didn't think ahead of what it would be like to have their daughters tits cut off??
Bull shite. Her case should be thrown out, and medical facilities should think twice about doing this.
If this was an adult, perhaps. But since this surgery was performed when the girl was still a minor, it certainly gives legal bearing to a medical malpractice case against the medical professionals and institutions that performed this surgery.
Legal consent for adolescents is a spectrum and the prohibitions and restrictions we place on minors for a myriad of actions are obviously too innumerable to list. Certainly the parents or guardians are the primary agents responsible for allowing this surgery to proceed yet this doesn’t absolve doctors for their part in this butchery and fundamental violation of the Hippocratic Oath.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:46 am to momentoftruth87
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I’m not going to have rates go up
Hopefully these suits will make this practice uninsurable.
That will end it.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:51 am to Auburn1968
Lawyers may do more good than harm this time. Sue them into oblivion on this 
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