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re: Could you beat a 135 pound female mma fighter (amanda nunez)without training?

Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Not only are women weak, but incredibly slow. It’s honestly shocking how slow they are when you do any athletic competition with them



My gf is pretty damn quick. We play basketball regularly against each other, and she is impressive going to the basket. She's surprisingly strong too. But she has Russian genes.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:21 pm to
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My gf is pretty damn quick.


But could you beat her up?

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she has Russian genes.


Test her for PEDs
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Obtuse1
Do you think an adult male could beat up an elite 135lb 14 old boy trained in mma?

Because that is the equivalent to the pro female.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 4:23 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:26 pm to
I don't disagree. Your average man will outclass even a professional fighter when it comes to size and strength, but I also think we underestimate how hard it is to get out of a submission hold. If you get frick around and get caught in a choke hold, there ain't much you can do when you can't breathe.

I know it's not the same thing. But my wife took couple of years of jiu jitsu when she was younger. While wrestling around, I've had to tap out multiple times against her. Perhaps if I wasn't afraid to hurt her and used 100% of my strength I wouldn't have gotten caught to begin with. But once caught, my strength can't even help anymore.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:26 pm to
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The thread isn't about would female pros beat male pros it is about can the man on the street beat a top level female pro. Next thing you know baws here will be saying they could beat Breanna Stewart one on one, ride a bike farther in an hour than Ellen van Dijk, and outscore Lilia Vu on the lake course at the Olympic Club in Open conditions.
The female world record bench for the 132 lb division is 204 pounds

You here to tell us nobody that isn’t trained in power lifting can’t compete as well?

Using other sports here is useless you see
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:27 pm to
Would I have to fight both of them?

Amanda Nunes and her wife.


Posted by Johnny3tears
Somewhere in La
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:27 pm to
No I would die
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:30 pm to
I would beat Stewart in one on one pretty easily
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Do you think an adult male could beat up an elite 135lb 14 old boy trained in mma?

Because that is the equivalent to the pro female.



The complete failure of this hypothetical lies in the fact a 14yo could not possibly have the training and technique that Nunez has. You are putting a modestly trained fighter in the place of a world-class Jui Jitsu and Judo fighter. The substitution is laughable because Amanda's advantage is her mastery of the combat sports techniques which don't occur in a child.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:38 pm to
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The complete failure of this hypothetical lies in the fact a 14yo could not possibly have the training and technique that Nunez has. You are putting a modestly trained fighter in the place of a world-class Jui Jitsu and Judo fighter. The substitution is laughable because Amanda's advantage is her mastery of the combat sports techniques which don't occur in a child.
So you love using your other sport comparisons, until you don’t….

In the other sports you love to bring up, it’s been proven 14 year old elite boys are the equivalent to the female pro. But now, you don’t want to use those other sport comparisons. Convenient. Even in more technical sports than mma, 14 year old boys are the equivalent to the female professional, eventhough the female lack the experience. So your reasoning above is pure shite

Also, I see you don’t want to discuss the female bench press world record for the 132 pound division
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:40 pm to
Me, yes? Average OT'er who's fat, slow, and bitches about how hot it is outside as he sweats though his PFG shirt? No
Posted by saderade
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Could you beat a 135 pound female mma fighter (amanda nunez)without training? by lsupride87
No and neither would the average US male assuming they have no previous fighting/wrestling/martial arts training. Also Nunez probably walks around at about 155 lbs. Jiu-jitsu is the great equalizer.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:43 pm to
Testosterone is more of an equalizer in all aspects of life regarding physical activities
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:43 pm to
Would I have a hard-on during it?
Posted by Milesahead
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:46 pm to
You do realize that 110# male would likely still prove to be 2x as strong as the 135# female, right???

For those that are weak, out of shape, and have no submission knowledge, they could easily lose. Real men, in decent health and rudimentary knowledge of submissions, it would only be a fluke to lose.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:47 pm to
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The female world record bench for the 132 lb division is 204 pounds

You here to tell us nobody that isn’t trained in power lifting can’t compete as well?

Using other sports here is useless you see



I very purposely picked sports (in the case of cycling a specific type of race) where technique is more important than raw strength. The fact you are placing strength over technique and experience demonstrates how limited your view of combat sports is. You think the average guy is going to grab Nunez take her down and walrus her into submission. 9 out of 10 times that simply won't happen.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:49 pm to
In power lifting technique is extremely important. Maybe you don’t understand the sports here
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:51 pm to
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and have no submission knowledge, they could easily los


The entire scenario is about the untrained average Joe. If they have submission knowledge than this hypothetical doesn’t apply to them
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:58 pm to
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Average OT'er who's fat, slow, and bitches about how hot it is outside as he sweats though his PFG shirt? No


Son, with a link of boudin between my fingers and a whiskey in the same hand.

Having said that... It's hot as shite and I'm going get an IV after work just for the recovery aspects
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:59 pm to
No, I'm old now and smoke dope have no cardio and don't know all the shite.

If I was a pro MMA fighter, I'd learn what chiropractors know. What things to target.
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