re: Teamsters' UPS Trainwreck Incoming

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UPS once used to pay its part time employees well. The wage back in 1982 was $8hr which translates to over $25hr today. The starting wage today is $15.50. Before 1982, drivers and part timers used to make the same pay at $12-$13hr. That's over $37hr today. UPS is s much larger and profitable company today.

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I partially paid my way through college on part-time UPS wages loading trucks at night in Port Allen. In 2005, I started at $10/hr and quickly moved up to $12/hour. That was good money for a broke college kid. If you had a decent head on your shoulder, you could move up quickly. They tried to get me to come on full-time after college and move into management. I think they were offended that I replied my dream wasn't to work at UPS.

I'm pretty anti-union, but I do try and see things from both sides. In this case, I have experience on both sides. Part-time work at UPS is hard fricking work. You don't know heat until you've loaded trailers on a muggy, Louisiana July afternoon. Looking up current average preload/sort hourly rates, they're underpaid, imo. Is it strike worthy? Eh, if it were me, I'd just quit and find something else, but then again I've never expected anyone to give me anything.

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Lazy asshats are everywhere. Not just in a union workplace.

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I don't disagree. But it's way easier to fire a lazy asshat that's not in a union.

I don’t understand what that has to do with anything

Just like another poster referencing sports salaries juxtaposed with labor of regular working people. That’s unfair and unrealistic to compare.

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So instead of compensating the workers (cause it's not like UPS hasn't brought in record profits) for their hard work, these multi-millionaires at the top should keep it all for themselves

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The way you people think is what drives me nuts many times in these kind of debates.
You make it sound like there or 10 or so old white men sitting around counting money that only they get to keep.
Never mind the bonuses and stock growth, etc for the many thousands who work there or who are retired as well as so many others who invest in the company

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Compared to 750 in MLB and 450 in the NBA. That’s why the average salary is less.

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You also need to compare revenue. NFL is 16.5 billion, mlb is 10 billion, nba is 8 billion.

Salaries aren’t on par between the leagues compared to how much money each makes.

Ac stock bookmarked.

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Dumb opinion. Threads like this reminds me of the overall IQ of this website.

It took awhile to become a driver, UPS paid for their schooling, decent money and benefits for young adults, even as part time workers.

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And the dumbest thing said in this thread is “UPS use to only hire from a college campus. Was a time most of your UPS drivers had college degrees.”

That is total bullshite. In fact, as recently as the late 90’s when most low level management (on road, preload and reload supervisors and center managers) only had high school diplomas. I was hired in 1987 five years after getting a college degree and drove for 10 years before going into management. I was the only driver in my center with a degree. When I was hired, the DIVISION manager was only a HS graduate.

I was there in ‘97 when the IBT struck UPS. Actually, I went on vacation for the first 3 weeks and came back when it was settled. I saw the strike coming a year earlier and basically laughed at some of my co-workers who talked a lot of shite. I knew I’d be OK no matter what happened but plenty of those dumbasses would never find a job with that compensation and benefit package.

isn’t for everyone. They pay top wage and expect the highest standard of productivity, service and safety. A fair day’s work for a fair day’s pay. That’s the fricking deal. Problem is, too many employees want the biggest paycheck in the industry but don’t want to uphold their end of the bargain.

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Impossible. 420 is all knowing about all things financial. If he says you should pay more, then who are you to question him?

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what? the guy you are responding to was making the same point as me.

It's dumb that healthcare coverage costs the same for a 20 year old that won't use it as a 50 year old.

For the 50 year old part timer that healthcare package is well worth it as a substitute to wages. For the 20 year old that doesn't go to the doctor he'd rather just have that $1400 a month over a $1400 month healthcare plan.

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Threads like this reminds me of the overall IQ of this website

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What you posted after this only lowered it more.

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My UPS guy, no matter where I’ve lived, is a part of my community, a trusted friend, that always goes above and beyond

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