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Why are people still hoping for Kira lol
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:09 pm
Chef Scott on the radio this week was asking about Kira. Sounds like he thinks Kira can be a big time contributor on this team. Why do people still think this?
He’s not that guy. Lol
He will never be that guy. Lol
How much longer will it take for people? Is it because of where he was drafted and people still won’t just accept it and move on?
He’s not that guy. Lol
He will never be that guy. Lol
How much longer will it take for people? Is it because of where he was drafted and people still won’t just accept it and move on?
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 10:14 pm
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:18 pm to TackySweater
Terrible first-round selection. Almost everyone drafted after him in the first round is at least a rotation guy.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:19 pm to TackySweater
People see his burst and speed and just hope the rest comes but it hasn’t
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:46 pm to MrJimBeam
The thought and pick was proper, we needed a PG and he was a super young, overly talented guy.
Truth is: the need to develop was too fast and too immediate and his injury set him back way too much.
If I'm a team like Orlando, he's a guy you wonder if a different pace and atmosphere can give him the opportunity to succeed.
With our need to win now, we can't afford to give him the 15-20 minutes per game to develop.
Truth is: the need to develop was too fast and too immediate and his injury set him back way too much.
If I'm a team like Orlando, he's a guy you wonder if a different pace and atmosphere can give him the opportunity to succeed.
With our need to win now, we can't afford to give him the 15-20 minutes per game to develop.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:55 pm to htran90
I don’t mind the pick. Kira was a fantastic three level scorer at Alabama and a good on ball defender. I wouldn’t even necessarily say the biggest deterrent for him in the league is the stuff that people thought he needed to improve at, it’s the stuff people thought he would be good at.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 12:22 am to TackySweater
You got to understand. First off he tore his ACL in his second year and miss basically a year of development in physical training and actual basketball action. Kira has only played 103 NBA games in 3 seasons. Second we just revamped our player development staff with Aaron Miles (point guard who has the all-time assists leader (with 954 career assists) of both Kansas and the Big 12 Conference) and our new offensive coach James Borrego, choices either Green set out to make or the FO because our current staff must not be up to par including the training staff as well. Not only that he's still young and his main issue seems to be IQ and strength which can be solved with an offseason of work with actual legit trainers which he's actually attempting to do right now. Things he would have worked on into the offseason last year that he couldn't because he was mainly trying to get back on the court. Remember Jaylen Brown started off with no handle and now he's become a self creator. Players can still improve by working on their game.
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Imagine if we drafted Jordan Hawkins but didn't hire James Borrego. He would struggle mightily in his first year and maybe in his second because Green is not an X&Os coach meaning Jordan wouldn't be utilized correctly or at all for his main skills. Same with Kira we basically have only one play drawn for him and I don't think we even run heavy pick n rolls with him when he's on the court. Once his strength improves it'll be alot easier for him because he'll get more lift on his layups and wont blow them so much. Also I don't think he gets enough touches too or chances in game to create on ball or run plays so are they even letting him do that in practice?? That's why I say with Borrego maybe he can better utilized Kira as well. Valanciunas too.
Why do you think Devonte' Graham looked so good over there but trash over here??
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Imagine if we drafted Jordan Hawkins but didn't hire James Borrego. He would struggle mightily in his first year and maybe in his second because Green is not an X&Os coach meaning Jordan wouldn't be utilized correctly or at all for his main skills. Same with Kira we basically have only one play drawn for him and I don't think we even run heavy pick n rolls with him when he's on the court. Once his strength improves it'll be alot easier for him because he'll get more lift on his layups and wont blow them so much. Also I don't think he gets enough touches too or chances in game to create on ball or run plays so are they even letting him do that in practice?? That's why I say with Borrego maybe he can better utilized Kira as well. Valanciunas too.
Why do you think Devonte' Graham looked so good over there but trash over here??
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 12:47 am
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:29 am to TackySweater
Lol
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:10 pm to TackySweater
Idk I just read thread saying Hawkins is too small
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:03 pm to TackySweater
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Why are people still hoping for Kira lol
I'd say it is in the best interest of the Pels that people think he still has potential - especially other teams.
If we have to dump him for cap reasons, we want him to have at least a decent value.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 12:18 am to PelsRoe318
The time I realized Kira might not be long in the league, was in his rookie year, he seemed to have a really dominant game and at the end of it, he only had 16 points and 4 assists.
Meanwhile in that same rookie class, Maxey was casually dropping 16 points in a half even though he was dealing with the same inconsistent playing time and role.
When Kira scores 8 points, it feels like a minor miracle. A guy like Maxey can score 8 points in 90 seconds, multiple times a game. And Maxey technically doesn’t have the top end speed Kira has. The main difference is that he just knows how to shift speeds, use his body (he does have a better body), and score from all 3 levels. Kira hasn’t even proven to be a 1 level scorer in the nba.
Kira is just a regular arse dude on this level. The injury was definitely unfortunate, but it was also readily apparent before his injury that he’d never be more than a somewhat limited role player.
The SL in 2021 was the nail in the coffin. We had a really solid squad and he played like absolute dog shite. The most concerning thing about his play was that he looked scared to dribble the ball past half court and actually initiate any offense despite being the highest pedigree player on our SL roster. Jose Alvarado randomly massively outperformed him in an extremely limited role. And that proved not to be a fluke later in the 2021-2022 season.
Meanwhile in that same rookie class, Maxey was casually dropping 16 points in a half even though he was dealing with the same inconsistent playing time and role.
When Kira scores 8 points, it feels like a minor miracle. A guy like Maxey can score 8 points in 90 seconds, multiple times a game. And Maxey technically doesn’t have the top end speed Kira has. The main difference is that he just knows how to shift speeds, use his body (he does have a better body), and score from all 3 levels. Kira hasn’t even proven to be a 1 level scorer in the nba.
Kira is just a regular arse dude on this level. The injury was definitely unfortunate, but it was also readily apparent before his injury that he’d never be more than a somewhat limited role player.
The SL in 2021 was the nail in the coffin. We had a really solid squad and he played like absolute dog shite. The most concerning thing about his play was that he looked scared to dribble the ball past half court and actually initiate any offense despite being the highest pedigree player on our SL roster. Jose Alvarado randomly massively outperformed him in an extremely limited role. And that proved not to be a fluke later in the 2021-2022 season.
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:06 am to TackySweater
Kira sucks arse. The nail in the coffin for me was when he got subbed into the play in game against OKC and played like 5 minutes, bricked a few shots, and posted a -9.
He just doesn’t have it. He’s a waste of a roster spot.
He just doesn’t have it. He’s a waste of a roster spot.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:42 pm to Cheesy Beaver
Yep. Guy has made absolutely no progress at all. I’d be surprised if he makes the team this year. Time to move on.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:59 pm to tiger_nurse
I would wait to see if he can get more lift on his layups and how well his strengthening goes in the offseason. That would open up his game so much because defenders won't be able to sag on his three ball and won't necessarily be able to guard him on his blowbys anymore. Just look at how much Dyson has gotten bigger and more aggressive in just one offseason. He in Las Vegas rn.
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