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re: Pelicans fans - do you want Zion gone or do you have hope?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:53 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:53 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
Well, Zion for 3 doesn’t work as a legal trade so
And as the GM of Portland, I don't even think about making that trade. The Pelicans are the ones stuck in salary cap hell.
Instead, I would continue to chase someone like Bam Adebayo and put Scooter with Damien and live with the fact that whatever losing you do, it will be on the court.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:55 pm to justaniceguy
Zion is a colossal embarrassment off the court and a non-factor on it because he never plays.
The longer the Pels wait to get rid of him the less they will get in return.
Should have happened already.
The longer the Pels wait to get rid of him the less they will get in return.
Should have happened already.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:00 pm to justaniceguy
does zion have any off the court drama?
that would factor in my answer
that would factor in my answer
Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:17 pm to iwyLSUiwy
The best ability is availability, and Zion ain't got time for that apparently. Gimme Scoot.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:18 pm to justaniceguy
Zion can gtfo.
anyone trying to guilt trip Pels fans into keeping him only want the Pels to fail.
anyone trying to guilt trip Pels fans into keeping him only want the Pels to fail.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:43 pm to Klark Kent
I had so high hopes for his character coming in. Top button kind of guy, not all tatted up, surprisingly no earrings. Now he’s junking up nasty 3rd rate porn stars.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:46 pm to mmonro3
Bye bye
Cut your losses
It could be the first nfl nba trade
Ship Zion out and saints can package Michael Thomas with him
Bulls and bears might work out a deal
Cut your losses
It could be the first nfl nba trade
Ship Zion out and saints can package Michael Thomas with him
Bulls and bears might work out a deal
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:58 pm to justaniceguy
Kick his lazy arse to the curb!
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:08 pm to justaniceguy
I’d rather just trade him.
-Injuries
-Atypical body for long term NBA success
-Weird emotional shite/immaturity
-Weight issues
He’s absolutely dominant when he plays but it just seems like there is a lot that will need to be overcome. I just don’t see him becoming more healthy, being a consummate pro, and having a long career.
If the guy was in phenomenal shape and was grinder and just had a few injury breaks it would be one thing, even at his size.
But whenever he gets hurt he blows up like a ballon despite having 9 figures worth of resources. He’s just not a pro.
-Injuries
-Atypical body for long term NBA success
-Weird emotional shite/immaturity
-Weight issues
He’s absolutely dominant when he plays but it just seems like there is a lot that will need to be overcome. I just don’t see him becoming more healthy, being a consummate pro, and having a long career.
If the guy was in phenomenal shape and was grinder and just had a few injury breaks it would be one thing, even at his size.
But whenever he gets hurt he blows up like a ballon despite having 9 figures worth of resources. He’s just not a pro.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:32 pm to JetsetNuggs
quote:
This. It's been frustrating but it's not a Greg Oden situation. When he plays, he's probably a top 5 player. I'm terrified it'll be an Embiid situation. You have to see it through to conclusion here, IMO. He's that good. I will say though, if the Blazers offer Scoot, Sharpe, and more, that's probably the only thing I'd be okay with. Still would prefer to keep him though.
He’s not top 5 when not fat. If Portland makes a dumb deal like that for a player that has pretty much eaten himself out of playing, the NBA should step in, void the trade and force Jody Allen to sell the team.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:18 pm to justaniceguy
Best thing the Pels can do is get rid of Zion. He is just living off his contract with no work ethic at all to motivate him to actually giving his all. Let some other team inherit this albatross and his contract.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:20 pm to MrLSU
Not a Pelicans fan but I hope he is gone
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:24 pm to justaniceguy
Get that weirdo frick out of here. I'll cover the additional shipping charges for his fat arse.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:31 pm to justaniceguy
I’d rather trade him now. This is probably the last opportunity we have to get decent value.
The timing is perfect as well. Charlotte w new owners possibly wanting to make a splash and Zion would be a great fit w Lamelo. Portland trying to keep Dame and build a winner around him. Scoot Henderson is both a guy that fits the Pels roster and desired culture.
You may never have this many things line up again for a fair Zion trade. If he gets injured again, it’s over. If he stays healthy for a year, we probably will be too good and never have the balls to trade him while his value is higher and even then, you have to find the right package and situation.
What are the odds that another Dame, Scoot level talent available at pick 3 situation will come back up?
There is a 25-30% chance Zion can stay healthy for a year, but I don’t ever see him being consistently healthy enough for the Pels to be a true contender.
The timing is perfect as well. Charlotte w new owners possibly wanting to make a splash and Zion would be a great fit w Lamelo. Portland trying to keep Dame and build a winner around him. Scoot Henderson is both a guy that fits the Pels roster and desired culture.
You may never have this many things line up again for a fair Zion trade. If he gets injured again, it’s over. If he stays healthy for a year, we probably will be too good and never have the balls to trade him while his value is higher and even then, you have to find the right package and situation.
What are the odds that another Dame, Scoot level talent available at pick 3 situation will come back up?
There is a 25-30% chance Zion can stay healthy for a year, but I don’t ever see him being consistently healthy enough for the Pels to be a true contender.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Move Zion now while his name has a chance to draw new season ticket holders in a shitty franchise far away from New Orleans. For the Pelicans franchise he no longer is a commodity that will attract season ticket holders so get rid of him
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:51 pm to justaniceguy
Fan base is fairly split in general, seems like 60/40 in favor of keeping him. I am in the majority, but I understand wanting to get rid of him; something I just would have called flat out crazy from the day we drafted him up until the end of last season. To say seeing him play 114 games in 4 seasons has been frustrating would be pretty big understatement.
That being said, in those 114 games he averages 26/7/4 plus a steal on 61% from the field. My optimism for what he could be still beats out my pessimism that he won’t ever be on the court consistently enough for us to win. Those margins are just slimmer than they’ve ever been today.
That being said, in those 114 games he averages 26/7/4 plus a steal on 61% from the field. My optimism for what he could be still beats out my pessimism that he won’t ever be on the court consistently enough for us to win. Those margins are just slimmer than they’ve ever been today.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:04 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Ideally do I want him gone? Yes, but I don’t see a trade the Pelicans will receive that is enough to make that happen.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:17 pm to JetsetNuggs
quote:
When he plays, he's probably a top 5 player.
Have to disagree with you on this
I’d take a lot of players in the league over Zion
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:33 pm to reggierayreb
I get being concerned about his health and off court issues, but what about his product on the court tells you there are 5 guys you’d want more than him?
I realize it’s been a minute, but at this point in the season Ingram had missed a month straight and we were 1st in the western conference. That was only possible due to this LINK
I realize it’s been a minute, but at this point in the season Ingram had missed a month straight and we were 1st in the western conference. That was only possible due to this LINK
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:48 pm
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