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re: Ed Sheeran wins copyright infringement lawsuit involving 'Thinking Out Loud'

Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:28 pm to
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Working somewhere that plays music over the speakers isn't the own you think it is




It's one salesman with a blue tooth speaker and shitty taste in music. Ear buds fixes the problem but it's the same shitty playlist every day. I'm sure you'd love it, though.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25817 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:40 pm to
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It's those baws from the music board. If it ain't Tom Petty, Pink Floyd, Willie Nelson, The Who, Van Halen, Merle Haggard or something in this realm, prepare to be shite on.


When I was younger I used to be a gatekeeper but as I have gotten older my appreciation of various genres of music has expanded, basically because I allowed myself to like music outside the Jimi/Stones/The Who/Zepplin era.


To the OP: the Blurred Lines suit emboldened writers. That suit was out of bounds. With the backdrop of that case, it is hard to argue Townsend was nuts suing. Thinking Out Loud is damn similar in a lot of respects to Let's Get It On it is actually pretty amazing when you hear them back to back. That being said I think they are different enough.

Music for the most part, at least what you hear on the "radio" is derivative. If you break it down far enough it is like compounds in the physical world there are just so many elements in the periodic table and just so many ways they can combine. Yes, there are billions of combinations to make riffs but there are a limited number that are pleasing to the human ear. That being said there must be a line where borrowing becomes theft, Blurred Lines definitely was not it, and Thinking Out Loud probably shouldn't be either.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10324 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:43 pm to
Good now he needs to sue Thomas Rhett for doing the same to his song.

Die a happy man is the same song as Thinking out loud.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:46 pm to
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The two songs sound nothing alike
yeah ok
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3924 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Overtime as music progresses there are going to be inevitable inadvertent similarities between songs given the fact that the combinations of notes is a finite number, albeit a massive number (I believe that number is close to 12^12...which is a really big number).


The total number of note variables is big but the ones that actually sound pleasing to our ear is much smaller.

Think of it like food - there is an infinite amount of matter that I can shove in my mouth and swallow. But if you start eating grass, sand, tree bark, or anything else you see then you're going to get sick and die. But if you stumble upon a chicken or portabella mushroom, you're golden.

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:58 pm to
don't love his music, but i think suing off a few matching cords is ridiculous.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53107 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:58 pm to
I’m not sure which gay I’m siding with on this one

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:01 pm to
Well done gaucho

Well done
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15700 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:03 pm to
All these serial downvoters.
Look you guys, I’m tired of hearing Bad Habits on the radio too. But relax a little
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2218 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:04 pm to
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did not engage in willful copyright infringement following a trial that saw Sheeran playing guitar and singing in court.


All they wanted was a free concert, unplugged.
Posted by tigerfaninsc
Alabama
Member since Dec 2004
503 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:07 pm to
Don’t forget Jason Isbell…..they love that shite too.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38952 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:08 pm to
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The two songs sound nothing alike


Nothing against Sheeran, but yes they do.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15532 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:09 pm to
Surprised he won with the way Blurred Lines one went. This type of nonsense needs to be thrown out. cord progression and basic beat being similar with the rest of the song being different shouldn't be able to be sued over.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4304 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:09 pm to
This was 100% a money grab and the daughter thought that Ed would settle. She “hoped” it didnt go to trial.

This is from a different article:

Kathryn Townsend Griffin, his daughter, testified during the trial that she thought Sheeran was “a great artist with a great future.”

She said she had hoped the lawsuit would not result in a trial, “but I have to protect my father’s legacy.”
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7839 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:11 pm to
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DAC didn't write it. Hell, DAC or Chris Stapleton aren't even the most famous country singers to record it.


Facts
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15532 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:11 pm to
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This was 100% a money grab and the daughter thought that Ed would settle. She “hoped” it didnt go to trial.

This is from a different article:

Kathryn Townsend Griffin, his daughter, testified during the trial that she thought Sheeran was “a great artist with a great future.”

She said she had hoped the lawsuit would not result in a trial, “but I have to protect my father’s legacy.”


They 100% don't care if it goes to trial, the Blurred Lines lawsuit they won gave them free reign to go after anything remotely close to his music.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4740 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:14 pm to
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Stapleton's Tennessee Whiskey


Not a Stapleton original song. Tennessee whiskey has been around since the 80’s by David Allan Coe and has been remade by several people including George Jones. Stapleton is just who made it famous so any claim that it sounds like Misty Blue is dumb.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54733 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:17 pm to
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Not a Stapleton original song. Tennessee whiskey has been around since the 80’s by David Allan Coe

DAC didn't write it, which is important to note because DAC has been content to let people believe he actually wrote it.
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has been remade by several people including George Jones

Jones's version sold more and charted higher than DAC's, and was a huge success.
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Stapleton is just who made it famous so any claim that it sounds like Misty Blue is dumb.

Stapleton's version took its melody directly, almost note-for-note, from "I'd Rather go Blind" by Etta James.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35585 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:26 pm to
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The Marvin Gaye family group is a bunch of simps. They sue people all the time for copyright infringement.


Except they didn't. At least read the article before jumping to conclusions.

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by the family of the song's late co-writer, Ed Townsend.


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If you murdered the artist you should lose your right to sue others for money over what's not yours.


The person that shot him (his dad) died 25 years ago.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4304 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:45 pm to
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They 100% don't care if it goes to trial, the Blurred Lines lawsuit they won gave them free reign to go after anything remotely close to his music.


Yep. They assumed that would be enough to scare him into settling.
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