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Blood Meridian- Would Hollywood ever make it?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:17 pm
For those who are unfamiliar, this is considered the magnum opus of Cormac McCarthy, author of The Road and No Country for Old Men. It's a western that's so violent and dark it makes the Wild Bunch look like the Care Bears.
Here's a Summary
Blood Meridian story of a teenage runaway known only as "the Kid" who joins a group of scalp hunters in the American Southwest in the mid-19th century. Led by the enigmatic and violent Judge Holden, the group embarks on a brutal and bloody campaign against Native Americans and other perceived enemies of civilization.
The novel is known for its vivid and often disturbing descriptions of violence, as well as its exploration of themes such as the nature of evil, the relationship between violence and civilization, and the human desire for power and dominance. Along the way, the Kid encounters a cast of colorful characters, including a one-armed ex-priest, a delusional fortune teller, and a group of Mexican bandits.
As the Kid becomes increasingly disillusioned with the violence and chaos around him, he begins to question his own role in the group and his own morality. Meanwhile, the Judge emerges as a figure of almost mythic proportions, seeming to embody the very essence of evil itself.
The novel ends with a violent confrontation between the Kid and the Judge, leaving the reader to ponder the ultimate meaning of the story and the nature of humanity's relationship with violence and savagery.
I'd recommend the Audiobook if you're unaccustomed to McCarthy's writing. He never uses quotation marks and has an aversion to almost all punctuation.
Several talented screenwriters, actors and directors have tried to get it greenlit for the last 30+ years, but have failed to make it to production.
I wouldn't want a watered-down adaptation, but I can see where some imagery in the book would be too much for most audiences. Some compromises would have to be made to keep an R rating. But...
Could it be done?
Who would direct?
Who would play The Kid?
And most importantly, is there any actor alive who could play Judge Holden and do the character justice?
Here's a Summary
Blood Meridian story of a teenage runaway known only as "the Kid" who joins a group of scalp hunters in the American Southwest in the mid-19th century. Led by the enigmatic and violent Judge Holden, the group embarks on a brutal and bloody campaign against Native Americans and other perceived enemies of civilization.
The novel is known for its vivid and often disturbing descriptions of violence, as well as its exploration of themes such as the nature of evil, the relationship between violence and civilization, and the human desire for power and dominance. Along the way, the Kid encounters a cast of colorful characters, including a one-armed ex-priest, a delusional fortune teller, and a group of Mexican bandits.
As the Kid becomes increasingly disillusioned with the violence and chaos around him, he begins to question his own role in the group and his own morality. Meanwhile, the Judge emerges as a figure of almost mythic proportions, seeming to embody the very essence of evil itself.
The novel ends with a violent confrontation between the Kid and the Judge, leaving the reader to ponder the ultimate meaning of the story and the nature of humanity's relationship with violence and savagery.
I'd recommend the Audiobook if you're unaccustomed to McCarthy's writing. He never uses quotation marks and has an aversion to almost all punctuation.
Several talented screenwriters, actors and directors have tried to get it greenlit for the last 30+ years, but have failed to make it to production.
I wouldn't want a watered-down adaptation, but I can see where some imagery in the book would be too much for most audiences. Some compromises would have to be made to keep an R rating. But...
Could it be done?
Who would direct?
Who would play The Kid?
And most importantly, is there any actor alive who could play Judge Holden and do the character justice?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:29 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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And most importantly, is there any actor alive who could play Judge Holden and do the character justice?
Was a real person, amazingly enough.
A younger John Goodman could pull it off.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:43 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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And most importantly, is there any actor alive who could play Judge Holden and do the character justice?
No
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
One of the few books that just doesn’t need a tv or movie adaptation. Just wouldn’t do it justice. The violent + Holden would be too much but it’s the entire point
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I just recently read the book (didn't like it at all but that's another story) but with the descripting of the judge being all hairless I kept picturing this:
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:13 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:14 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Meh, I would put Smonk up against it as the most violent and dark western.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I'd recommend the Audiobook if you're unaccustomed to McCarthy's writing. He never uses quotation marks and has an aversion to almost all punctuation.
Not all of his books are like this but to your point, Blood Meridian's a difficult read.
It reminds me of a Chuck Palahniuk book called Pigmy. The entire book was written in broken English. It was annoying as shite.
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:22 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I think some folks in Hollywood have contemplated trying to adapt Blood Meridian to film for years, but I’m pretty sure that there’s no way it can be done without it just coming off as an overtly violent western that would likely leave audiences depressed.
The book itself is in my top 5 of favorites, but it’s because of McCarthy’s prose and his allusions in telling story, much of which is frankly terrifying and I don’t think can be effectively translated onto screen.
It would probably take an unknown actor to play Judge Holden because I can’t think of anyone who could fit that role. I think it would also take a director who is skilled in conveying psychological terror to properly create the “aura” of Holden. Again, I’m not sure who that would be.
The book itself is in my top 5 of favorites, but it’s because of McCarthy’s prose and his allusions in telling story, much of which is frankly terrifying and I don’t think can be effectively translated onto screen.
It would probably take an unknown actor to play Judge Holden because I can’t think of anyone who could fit that role. I think it would also take a director who is skilled in conveying psychological terror to properly create the “aura” of Holden. Again, I’m not sure who that would be.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Mel Gibson would be the perfect director for something like this.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
read that thing and it’s more about the style than the plot, right?
Phenomenal writing. But like Sound and the Fury and most of Faulkner, Not sure it translates well to silver screen
Phenomenal writing. But like Sound and the Fury and most of Faulkner, Not sure it translates well to silver screen
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:28 pm to Vols&Shaft83
In the book Judge Holden was 7 feet tall, 500 pounds, hairless, pale white and looked like a giant baby. I always thought the wrestler King Kong Bundy fit that description perfectly.
McCarthy made him that way as a literary allusion to Moby Dick, which he considered to be the best American novel. The supposed real life Holden was thin and spry with long hair but much taller than average, like George Washington.
I suppose you could cast an actor who resembled the real life Holden as opposed to McCarthy's white whale. But part of Holden's mystique in the novel was that his actions, speech and physical stature often seemed at odds with one another. For example, he was a lumbering giant but was an amazing dancer, lightning quick with a gun and could write with both hands simultaneously.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:57 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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He never uses quotation marks and has an aversion to almost all punctuation
There’s no quotes and hardly any punctuation in Requiem for a Dream but the movie turned out good. Excellent adaptation and a great book by Hubert Selby Jr.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:53 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Blood Meridian
That's the only book that ever gave me nightmares. And I read The Exorcist.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 10:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I was literally about to start reading this book. My brother recommended this and The Road recently and just read No Country for Old Men (obviously amazing movie just never read the book), about to get on that.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:26 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Blood Meridian- Would Hollywood ever make it?
Bone Tomahawk was made so...probably?
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:34 am to Vols&Shaft83
I think you're going to see Directors start taking chances on movies like this in the next couple of years. Everything is too stiff, too scared of backlash, and that breeds creativity that pushes envelopes.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Eggers directs
Gibson produce/screenplay
Alex Skarsguard as Judge
Gibson produce/screenplay
Alex Skarsguard as Judge
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I haven't read the book, but I feel like I have because of Ben Nichols' (lead singer of Lucero) amazing solo-album "The Last Pale Light in the West". It's only 7 songs, but it packs a weighty punch. It's sort of a concept album he wrote after he read Blood Meridian.
He's talked about in interviews how he took some liberties with some of the characters and stories, but only when it made the songs better.
Give it a listen.
He's talked about in interviews how he took some liberties with some of the characters and stories, but only when it made the songs better.
Give it a listen.
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