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re: DOJ indicted four members of African Socialist Party as Russian agents for free speech.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:52 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:52 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
There’s an easy solution to your quandary.
Let’s see if you are a super smart progressive and figure it out.
Let’s see if you are a super smart progressive and figure it out.
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:44 pm to Decatur
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about the Russia investigation and am more than happy to address actual specific examples you have an issue with.
Were the Woods procedures followed?
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:45 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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don’t know how you keep posting here without needing therapy. Seems to me the majority of posters here are beyond rationality and not worth the time. I feel dirty coming back to this place tbh.
So soft. Stick to your safe spaces.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:49 pm to BBONDS25
I feel like we’ve had this conversation before.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:50 pm to Decatur
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Why are you so upset about people getting indicted for coordinating their separatist activities with Russian intelligence?
Imagine Decatur's reaction if a CIA asset was put in handcuffs and arrested for our election meddling in another country? He'd want to start WWIII, even though he has no problem with those from other countries being arrested for the exact damn thing.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
Russian government arrests people for thinking and speaking out against official government positions.
The US government does the same.
The US government does the same.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:52 pm to Decatur
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Calexit is a Russian intelligence operation
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:52 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I'm sure Decatur and the other left jackboots will cheer this on.
Correctamundo.
She was quick to support:
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Tankies going to bat for Russian agents. What’s new?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:57 pm to Jbird
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Already happening.
And Patriots will still celebrate The Fourth of July and say, "America! Love it or Leave it!"
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:59 pm to Decatur
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Tankies going to bat for Russian agents. What’s new?
You literally voted for Hitler you fricking moron.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
If the following are crimes, we are on a very dangerous, authoritarian, and downright unfree path.
The government could easily arrest me for speaking out against the corruption and stupidity of our government’s involvement in the Ukraine.
And Decatur and the rest of our Democrats would cheer as fed agents hauled me away. I can hear some of the posts...”shouldn’t have used pro Russia talking points” and “he’s a Putin lover.” As if any of that, even if true, are grounds to have someone arrested and prosecuted. This is the most extreme, out of control, unaccountable, and abusive DOJ in our history.
Democracy.
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Conspiring to Use U.S. Citizens as Illegal Agents of the Russian Government
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Sow Discord
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Spread Pro-Russia Propaganda
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Interfere in Elections Within the United States
The government could easily arrest me for speaking out against the corruption and stupidity of our government’s involvement in the Ukraine.
And Decatur and the rest of our Democrats would cheer as fed agents hauled me away. I can hear some of the posts...”shouldn’t have used pro Russia talking points” and “he’s a Putin lover.” As if any of that, even if true, are grounds to have someone arrested and prosecuted. This is the most extreme, out of control, unaccountable, and abusive DOJ in our history.
Democracy.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:07 pm to LuckyTiger
Decatur literally argued with me that Nigel Farage was a Russian asset, despite the fact that Farage's entire political career revolved around getting the UK out of the EU, which began when John Major's Tory government ratified the 1992 Maastricht Treaty, years before we ever knew who Vladimir Putin was.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:08 pm to LuckyTiger
Are you working at the direction of the Russian Federation and haven’t notified the AG? If not you should be ok on that front. No need for the drama.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:10 pm to Decatur
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They’re in trouble because they operated as foreign agents of the Russian Federation without notifying the Attorney General as required by law.
So, just to be clear, if I get a job offer tomorrow from the Russian government. And that job is to pay me to post memes on the internet. You think that should be illegal, and something that should have to registered with the government for?
These were not lobbyists or campaign staffers.
If more information comes out, maybe it will look different.
But anyone, and any government, should be allowed to advertise, post memes, comment on social media, etc.
These are not criminal offenses, regardless of the content or the source of payment.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:12 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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So, just to be clear, if I get a job offer tomorrow from the Russian government. And that job is to pay me to post memes on the internet. You think that should be illegal, and something that should have to registered with the government for?
Yes
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:14 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Yes
What if the job is to mow the lawn at the Russian Embassy?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:15 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Yes
Every time this poster waxes poetic about rights and liberties, send him back to this post. This answer is further proof that American leftists are pure authoritarians.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:21 pm to SCLibertarian
It's insane that people are apparently OK with taking a nearly 100 year-old law meant to restrict ACTUAL foreign agents and using it to arrest people posting internet memes.
This rivals Civil Asset Forfeiture as one of the worst laws on the books in America.
This rivals Civil Asset Forfeiture as one of the worst laws on the books in America.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:26 pm to Decatur
You are not a serious poster, you are a lickspittle for the Democrat Party. You still believe in the Russian dossier. You believe everything the Biden Administration tells you, unequivocally, without question. So there is no real point in engaging with you in a serious discussion on political matters.
All I will say is that if you are unable to see (and I know you and others are unable) how the government can use the indictment herein and the case behind it to target and prosecute almost anyone, with very little discretion, then that is a very dangerous problem.
I have a Russian wife. I have Russian in laws. I have communicated with Russian government officials on more than one occasion for a variety of necessary bureaucratic measures.
I’m a small fry in real life. So there’s probably not a lot of motivation behind making an example of me for fear and intimidation purposes. But if I were significant in the Trump campaign, or the Texit movement, or if I protested on J6, or any other number of activities, I could be an easy target for yet another political prosecution.
Now, I know your thought probably is I would deserve prison if I worked in a significant position for the Trump campaign, or if I was active in peaceful separation of Texas, or if I protested on J6. But no, none of those activities are illegal.
All I will say is that if you are unable to see (and I know you and others are unable) how the government can use the indictment herein and the case behind it to target and prosecute almost anyone, with very little discretion, then that is a very dangerous problem.
I have a Russian wife. I have Russian in laws. I have communicated with Russian government officials on more than one occasion for a variety of necessary bureaucratic measures.
I’m a small fry in real life. So there’s probably not a lot of motivation behind making an example of me for fear and intimidation purposes. But if I were significant in the Trump campaign, or the Texit movement, or if I protested on J6, or any other number of activities, I could be an easy target for yet another political prosecution.
Now, I know your thought probably is I would deserve prison if I worked in a significant position for the Trump campaign, or if I was active in peaceful separation of Texas, or if I protested on J6. But no, none of those activities are illegal.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:27 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What's a Tankie?
Radical communists that defend Soviet Union style communism. Whereas modern American woke commies will acknowledge Soviet communism’s evils (and say something like “but that wasn’t REAL communism”), tankies will argue the USSR was the ideal.
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