re: Beating the Democrats in '24 isn't the ultimate goal

Is it really winning if you "win" with a candidate the establishment allows to win? OnlyRons saying they will cheat Trump but not Ron isn't a good look for Ron. If you wanna say he's too toxic to win I don't buy that either he's won before and will be going against another shite sandwich. I'd rather go out swinging with Trump than a candidate they are ok with winning.

DeSantis is pure hopium. They want a candidate without Trumps perceived flaws but don't understand that that's what makes Trump appealing. Maybe we don't need another "adult in charge". They are also ignorant to the fact that the white house is vastly different than a governers mansion and there's been many Trojan horses in politics before. They have no record of him running the country to go off of.

One last talking point I've seen is that liberals want Trump over DeSantis, I know this is anecdotal but all the liberals I've seen including my super liberal in laws all want DeSantis over Trump and are all giddy over the prospect of Trump not getting the nom/getting indicted. They want Trump to go away forever because they hate him the most. The OnlyRons on here act strikingly similar to liberals I see irl. That's another projection by them accusing Trump Republicans of not actually being republican. All that being said I'll still vote for Ron if he is the nominee