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IMO, best place to park cash...

Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33578 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:00 pm
is USFR - an ultra-short, floating rate treasury ETF.

I wasn't overly aware of the Treasury "floating rate note" (FRN) market until somewhat recently, but it solves a lot of problems.

It's liquid

Its duration is basically zero

Its yield is high and constantly re-sets

It avoids the classic "bond fund" problem of constantly rolling, and thus never expiring at maturity (like a physical bond), thus exposing investors to drawdowns.

Right now, it's about 4.75%. For you guys that are leery of bank deposits and/or simply aren't being paid enough by your banks, this is a good option.


Appendix: 100% of the assets are 2-year, FRNs. These reset weekly at the highest clearing yield of the 3-month t-bill auction, so you basically earn actual short-term, money market rates without any of the other headaches. Additionally, FRNs pay a "kicker" of several (~20) basis points to entice demand, so the ETF earns that additional yield also.

Expense ratio of the ETF is like 15bps.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:54 pm to
Why would you want a floating rate when rates are likely to start heading back down?
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5199 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:02 pm to
There are multiple HY savings accounts available with 4% rates. No fees and can move whenever. Seems like the easiest IMO. Especially if you are under 250k.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14797 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:31 pm to
...or park it in a MM paying 4.3%.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31532 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:50 pm to
I'm about to do wife's (do i have to say "no pics" on MT?) and my max IRA and SEP IRA contributions.

I assume I can buy USFR in our TD Amtd IRAs. I tried to figure out what the mm rates were for cash positions at TD, but couldn't find it. I just want to stay in cash for new contributions right now. So this could be a good option. thx
Posted by Konkey Dong
Member since Aug 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:56 pm to
I use SGOV for mine
Posted by Troutforbreakfast
Member since Mar 2023
138 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:24 pm to
100% in agreement with your post as it’s exactly what I have done with my wealth.

I’m in the market still with disposable cash but it’s not doing well.

My metals of which I own tangible amounts are solid at this point in and out of the country but, with the new laws on the books in place now, both are not safe from seizures in catastrophic events by our government.

Just have to live with that.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1785 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:43 pm to
Can you help me understand this more? Are the earnings derived only from the monthly dividend? I’m not familiar with these treasury-based etfs.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38818 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:13 pm to
Why not just buy treasuries

3 month was 5.10 today
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:19 am to
Those are basically packaged treasuries and are better than CDs.

One word of caution—the interest paid by an ETF is not going to be exempt from Louisiana income tax like buying a treasury would be. You can buy treasuries through your broker and they are very liquid.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16990 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:59 pm to
Apple Card savings account 4.15%
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33578 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:36 pm to
bump, as this is still the superior option for cash, IMO
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 2:50 am to
A Robinhood Gold account will pay 5% APY on all univested cash. That's as liquid as it gets. FDIC insured up to $2.25m. Gold account costs a $5/month fee.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:52 am to
So, a money market account?
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2431 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:50 pm to
6 month CD
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