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re: 2023 IndyCar Season - R17 Laguna Seca 9/10 2:30 pm ET (NBC)
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:10 pm to Cocotheape
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:10 pm to Cocotheape
Hate to see Graham bumped. He’s one I pull for.
I’ll likely be rooting for Santino, TK, and Pato. It seems that even when a guy like Santino has a fast car, being on a lesser team often screws them in the pits or with strategy. It’s a long race with lots of chances to make mistakes.
I’ll likely be rooting for Santino, TK, and Pato. It seems that even when a guy like Santino has a fast car, being on a lesser team often screws them in the pits or with strategy. It’s a long race with lots of chances to make mistakes.
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:12 pm to Twenty 49
It would be great to see a Foyt car make a run at Indy
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:22 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Santino knows how to move forward at Indianapolis. I think he can finish top 5. The problem is Foyt doesn’t have what it takes on pit road to win.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:37 am to EhSeeJay
I think if Santino wins, it will break some people. I don't know if that's going to be a good thing or bad thing, but chaos would ensue. Netflix could only dream of a show with IndyCar. 
Also, the other Foyt car, Pedersen, has a chance to shatter the best rookie finish ever at Indy 500.
I'm going to pull for the Foyt team and TK.
Also, the other Foyt car, Pedersen, has a chance to shatter the best rookie finish ever at Indy 500.
I'm going to pull for the Foyt team and TK.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:52 am to AutoYes_Clown
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:38 pm to EhSeeJay
The start of the race is going to be wild, with ultra aggressive guys starting nose to tail on rows 2 & 3 — Santino & Pato, w/
Rossi & Sato just behind them.
Dixon & TK on the outsides of those rows will be nervous.
I hope Santino can put a podium finish together, but idk how he’ll do being a lone wolf @ the front. Needs to work well with Veekay to have a shot
I believe it’ll be a “team” race up front w/ the Ganassis & Mclarens battling it out for the W.
Pato - Rossi - Rosenqvist - TK
Vs
Palou - Dixon - Ericsson - Sato
Rossi & Sato just behind them.
Dixon & TK on the outsides of those rows will be nervous.
I hope Santino can put a podium finish together, but idk how he’ll do being a lone wolf @ the front. Needs to work well with Veekay to have a shot
I believe it’ll be a “team” race up front w/ the Ganassis & Mclarens battling it out for the W.
Pato - Rossi - Rosenqvist - TK
Vs
Palou - Dixon - Ericsson - Sato
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:38 pm to EhSeeJay
The start of the race is going to be wild, with ultra aggressive guys starting nose to tail on rows 2 & 3 — Santino & Pato, w/
Rossi & Sato just behind them.
Dixon & TK on the outsides of those rows will be nervous.
I hope Santino can put a podium finish together, but idk how he’ll do being a lone wolf @ the front. Needs to work well with Veekay to have a shot
I believe it’ll be a “team” race up front w/ the Ganassis & Mclarens battling it out for the W.
Pato - Rossi - Rosenqvist - TK
Vs
Palou - Dixon - Ericsson - Sato
Rossi & Sato just behind them.
Dixon & TK on the outsides of those rows will be nervous.
I hope Santino can put a podium finish together, but idk how he’ll do being a lone wolf @ the front. Needs to work well with Veekay to have a shot
I believe it’ll be a “team” race up front w/ the Ganassis & Mclarens battling it out for the W.
Pato - Rossi - Rosenqvist - TK
Vs
Palou - Dixon - Ericsson - Sato
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:58 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
First crash of the Indy 500 event.
After qualifying weekend, the teams practice on Monday (today) and Friday before the race next Sunday.
Stefan Wilson and Katherine Legge tangled going into Turn 1 when cars in front of them apparently slowed unexpectedly. Wilson was taken to the hospital but my guess is that he'll be ready for the race.
https://www.autosport.com/indycar/news/legge-wilson-suffer-first-major-crash-of-indy-500-practice/10472300/
After qualifying weekend, the teams practice on Monday (today) and Friday before the race next Sunday.
Stefan Wilson and Katherine Legge tangled going into Turn 1 when cars in front of them apparently slowed unexpectedly. Wilson was taken to the hospital but my guess is that he'll be ready for the race.
https://www.autosport.com/indycar/news/legge-wilson-suffer-first-major-crash-of-indy-500-practice/10472300/
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:06 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Yeah, I'm surprised they stayed off the wall during qualifying like they did. Figured this was coming soon enough. Glad there were no serious injuries.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:17 pm to XenScott
Bunch of buddies are going back again this year. I had booked my flight and the GF shut it down because it's our first Memorial Day down here 
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:25 pm to XenScott
Just read Wilson fractured T12. He’s out of the race. Maybe Graham has a shot after all?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:28 pm to EhSeeJay
Wow. I have some Thoracic vertebrae issues and they aren’t fun. He’s a youngster though and should be back at it in no time. Didn’t look that bad on his part.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:41 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
That's a lot of info. Thanks
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:22 am to EhSeeJay
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Just read Wilson fractured T12. He’s out of the race. Maybe Graham has a shot after all?
That's a brutal end to his 2023 campaign. Stefan works all year to raise sponsorship. That's gotta be super frustrating.
So I heard from David Land's video today that now it's the driver who qualifies for the race. It used to be the car that qualified for the race.
In the past, if a driver needed to switch cars after qualifying, he had to go to the back of the grid, because the new car did not qualify for the race. But if a new driver is put in the car that is qualified, the car keeps its grid position. There is logic to this. At Indy the speed you achieve comes down mostly to the car, not the driver. If you swap cars after qualifying is over, there's no guarantee that the new car will perform as well as the qualified car. The new car did not earn the original car's spot.
Now, the driver qualifies for the race. If a driver has to switch cars, he keeps his grid position. If a new driver is put in an already-qualified car, he goes to the back of the grid. So Wilson's replacement will go to the back of the grid.
The two most obvious candidates to replace Wilson are JR Hildebrand and Graham Rahal. Hildebrand has been in Indianapolis all week letting everyone know he's available if a driver is needed. He said he passed his physical and is ready to go. I also learned from this article that he has driven in the last 12 Indy 500s and drove three years in a row for Dreyer & Reinbold 2018-2020, so they know him well. He wasn't able to get a program together this year though, so his streak is in danger, but this could be his lifeline. If they choose Hildebrand, he will have to go through the refresher course before Carb Day.
I think the main question with Graham is if he has a contract directly with Honda. Even if he doesn't, Honda may frown upon him driving a Chevy. Since Graham was in a fully sponsored car, I'm thinking that if they choose him, he will bring additional sponsorship and it will be financially more lucrative for Dreyer & Reinbold.
www.usatoday.com/story/sports/motor/indycar/2023/05/22/indy-500-2023-katherine-legge-stefan-wilson-crash-in-practice/70244896007/
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:32 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Here are the Monday race-prep practice speeds.
I don't think there's anything to be learned from anyone who has a middling speed (224-225 mph).
At the top, I believe Ganassi is showing that they are well-organized and fast. I think David Land said that the Penskes looked very good on Monday as well. So maybe Will Power will remain part of the conversation over the last 50 laps.
At the bottom of the chart, I don't know what to make of Felix and Santino putting around in the slow lane. But I do think it's a bad sign that Rinus VeeKay drove the fewest number of laps by far. That could indicate problems with his car that took time away from race setup.
I don't think there's anything to be learned from anyone who has a middling speed (224-225 mph).
At the top, I believe Ganassi is showing that they are well-organized and fast. I think David Land said that the Penskes looked very good on Monday as well. So maybe Will Power will remain part of the conversation over the last 50 laps.
At the bottom of the chart, I don't know what to make of Felix and Santino putting around in the slow lane. But I do think it's a bad sign that Rinus VeeKay drove the fewest number of laps by far. That could indicate problems with his car that took time away from race setup.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:16 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Just announced, Graham Rahal to fill in for Stephan Wilson (broke his back yesterday in that crash). Hell of an emotional turnaround to go from missing out on the race in a car that was a dud, to being able to drive a very fast Chevy.
The D&R team now has RHR & Graham piloting their cars - RHR was 11th yesterday in practice & w/ chevy having a much faster raceday package than the past few years.
Wild that Honda allowed him to drive a Chevy.
The D&R team now has RHR & Graham piloting their cars - RHR was 11th yesterday in practice & w/ chevy having a much faster raceday package than the past few years.
Wild that Honda allowed him to drive a Chevy.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:06 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
Looks like Graham has a very good relationship with the Wilson family. And as I said about Rahal's sponsorship also making him an appealing substitute:
quote:
Fifth Third Bank and United Rentals, which had partnered with Rahal on the No.15 entry, will move across to the No.24.
racer.com/2023/05/23/rahal-to-replace-wilson-at-drr-for-indianapolis-500/
quote:
Wild that Honda allowed him to drive a Chevy.
I think Honda didn't want to be seen as the reason Graham had to miss the Indy 500.
But now Honda's biggest nightmare is Graham Rahal winning the Indy 500. The jokes about about how Graham just needed to drive a Chevy to win the Indy 500 would haunt Honda forever.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:09 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Announced today, the honorary starter for the 107th running of the Indianapolis 500: "Adam Driver".
Perfect.
indianapolismotorspeedway.com/news-multimedia/news/2023/05/23/05-23-Driver-Starter-IMS
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:30 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
So we weren't wrong. Even Graham was shocked that a deal was made.
quote:
“When Dennis called me, I said ‘I don’t wanna waste your time, it’s probably best if you just speak to dad’,” said Rahal Jr. “While I was very appreciative, I knew the hurdles were going to be massive. This wasn’t as easy as me saying ‘yes’. We were sat together at 10:30 last night and said to ourselves ‘I can’t believe this actually happened’ – that Honda and Chevy both allowed this to happen. I knew the challenges were far greater than me, I knew I had to step aside because, contractually, I don’t know what’s between RLL and Honda and all our partners."
When asked to explain what the talks between the teams, Honda and Chevrolet were like, Reinbold said: “I had discussions with the Chevy guys to get their feel for it, and Bobby took over the Honda discussions, as well. We just kind of went off on our separate paths with this goal in mind to explore and to see if it was possible. They came back, and a couple hurdles later that we crossed, it started looking good."
“We kept crossing off things on our checklist that had to happen for this to be a possibility. There were a lot of things involved, and we spent a lot of time yesterday and into last night going through those things.”
Rahal “can’t believe” Honda allowed him to race a Chevy in Indy 500
OK now I want Graham to win the race. Him talking about how great the Chevy in back was, will be the most awkward thing ever.
Oh, and Marco Andretti was not surprised by the accident...
quote:
“It was in my mirror, but what's funny, before that happened – not funny – but literally a lap before that happened, we were in this string of cars, and I'm like, I can't believe how slow the pack is going,” he said. “It caught me out in [Turn] 3. I was way on the brakes, and I couldn't believe how slow they were going.
“So, I think from the looks of it, I only saw it from sitting in the race car, it looked like she [Legge] just got caught out by how slow they were going.”
Andretti had near miss just before Legge and Wilson wrecked
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:22 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I know several of us follow and watch David Land's YT channel LINK.
There is also fantastic tech coverage from Marshall Pruett of RACER at RACER Technical Videos YT LINK. He give's a glimpse of things like rain fluid dynamics, weight jacking, aerodynamic fastener design, etc.
There is also fantastic tech coverage from Marshall Pruett of RACER at RACER Technical Videos YT LINK. He give's a glimpse of things like rain fluid dynamics, weight jacking, aerodynamic fastener design, etc.
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