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re: 2023 IndyCar Season - R17 Laguna Seca 9/10 2:30 pm ET (NBC)
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:16 am to EhSeeJay
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:16 am to EhSeeJay
Sunday May 21
Pole and Bump Day
Practice 11:30 AM ET (Peacock)
Top-12 Qualifying 2:00 PM ET (Peacock)
To set Rows 3 and 4 (P7-P12)
Pole Shootout and Bump Qualy 4:00 PM ET (NBC)
To set Rows 1 and 2 (P1-P6)
Plus the slowest four cars will compete for the last row of the grid. One car will go home!
Here are the guys (in white) going for pole or trying to stay in the race. Three of the four guys in the bump session is the entire contingent of full-time Team Rahal drivers! I believe the guys in the bump session will be allowed up to two attempts.
Pole and Bump Day
Practice 11:30 AM ET (Peacock)
Top-12 Qualifying 2:00 PM ET (Peacock)
To set Rows 3 and 4 (P7-P12)
Pole Shootout and Bump Qualy 4:00 PM ET (NBC)
To set Rows 1 and 2 (P1-P6)
Plus the slowest four cars will compete for the last row of the grid. One car will go home!
Here are the guys (in white) going for pole or trying to stay in the race. Three of the four guys in the bump session is the entire contingent of full-time Team Rahal drivers! I believe the guys in the bump session will be allowed up to two attempts.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 8:00 am
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 1:56 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Fast 12 Qualifying
The Fast 6 will go for pole in an hour. Rows 3 and 4 are set.
Fast 6
1. Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren Chevy) 234.081
2. Santino Ferrucci (Foyt Chevy) 233.911
3. Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter Chevy) 233.801
4. Alex Palou (Ganassi Honda) 233.779
5. Scott Dixon (Ganassi Honda) 233.430
6. Pato O'Ward (McLaren Chevy) 233.229
Row 3
7. Alexander Rossi (McLaren Chevy) 233.110
8, Takuma Sato (Ganassi Honda) 233.098
9. Tony Kanaan (McLaren Chevy) 233.076
Row 4
10. Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi Honda) 232.889
11. Benjamin Pedersen (Foyt Chevy) 232.671
12. Will Power (Penske Chevy) 232.635
The Fast 6 will go for pole in an hour. Rows 3 and 4 are set.
Fast 6
1. Felix Rosenqvist (McLaren Chevy) 234.081
2. Santino Ferrucci (Foyt Chevy) 233.911
3. Rinus VeeKay (Carpenter Chevy) 233.801
4. Alex Palou (Ganassi Honda) 233.779
5. Scott Dixon (Ganassi Honda) 233.430
6. Pato O'Ward (McLaren Chevy) 233.229
Row 3
7. Alexander Rossi (McLaren Chevy) 233.110
8, Takuma Sato (Ganassi Honda) 233.098
9. Tony Kanaan (McLaren Chevy) 233.076
Row 4
10. Marcus Ericsson (Ganassi Honda) 232.889
11. Benjamin Pedersen (Foyt Chevy) 232.671
12. Will Power (Penske Chevy) 232.635
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:02 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Santucci has a shot at pole!
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:13 pm to EhSeeJay
An AJ Foyt car on pole with an American driver would be hugely popular, and that's what I'm rooting for at this point. I think any of the four Chevy drivers could take pole. I think it would be a big upset if one of the Hondas takes pole.
I think Dixon, O'Ward, and Palou are still the favorites to win the race. Felix has been a fantastic qualifier on big ovals, but has not raced as well he qualifies. Santino has a great record at Indy so far (always finishes in the top 10), but I'm not sure the AJ Foyt team can out-perform Ganassi and McLaren. Rinus VeeKay is a great qualifier at Indy (never started below P4) and I'd like to see him win one, but his performances lately have not been great.
Pole Shootout and Bump Qualy 4:00 PM ET (NBC)
To set Rows 1 and 2 (P1-P6)
Plus the slowest four cars will compete for the last row of the grid. One car will go home!
I think Dixon, O'Ward, and Palou are still the favorites to win the race. Felix has been a fantastic qualifier on big ovals, but has not raced as well he qualifies. Santino has a great record at Indy so far (always finishes in the top 10), but I'm not sure the AJ Foyt team can out-perform Ganassi and McLaren. Rinus VeeKay is a great qualifier at Indy (never started below P4) and I'd like to see him win one, but his performances lately have not been great.
Pole Shootout and Bump Qualy 4:00 PM ET (NBC)
To set Rows 1 and 2 (P1-P6)
Plus the slowest four cars will compete for the last row of the grid. One car will go home!
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:15 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Rossi will contend from the third row.
As always though in the DW12 era of the 500, there will be 3-4 guys who have the race pace and the one who has clean pit stops and manages fuel mileage best will win.
As always though in the DW12 era of the 500, there will be 3-4 guys who have the race pace and the one who has clean pit stops and manages fuel mileage best will win.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:01 pm to Cocotheape
so it’s highest average MPH?
I know nothing, but am interested.
I know nothing, but am interested.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:02 pm to sorantable
Yes, highest 4-lap average MPH.
We're starting with the bump qualifying. Only 33 spots in the race, but there are 34 entrants. They kept the last row of the grid (P31 to P33) open after Saturday, so four cars have to qualify now for the last three spots. I think these guys will be allowed up to two attempts.
It just so happens that three of the four cars is Team Rahal.
We're starting with the bump qualifying. Only 33 spots in the race, but there are 34 entrants. They kept the last row of the grid (P31 to P33) open after Saturday, so four cars have to qualify now for the last three spots. I think these guys will be allowed up to two attempts.
It just so happens that three of the four cars is Team Rahal.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:04 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Thanks 
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:10 pm to sorantable
Holy shite, 30 years after Bobby Rahal got bumped from the 1993 Indy 500, Graham Rahal got bumped from the 2023 Indy 500!
By his teammate Jack Harvey, who went out two times in a row without being able to cool his engine, just a small aero adjustment. Incredible effort.
31. Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Honda) 229.649
32. Sting Ray Robb (Coyne Honda) 229.549
33. Jack Harvey (Rahal Honda) 229.166
Bumped!
Graham Rahal (Rahal Honda) 229.159
By his teammate Jack Harvey, who went out two times in a row without being able to cool his engine, just a small aero adjustment. Incredible effort.
31. Christian Lundgaard (Rahal Honda) 229.649
32. Sting Ray Robb (Coyne Honda) 229.549
33. Jack Harvey (Rahal Honda) 229.166
Bumped!
Graham Rahal (Rahal Honda) 229.159
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:22 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Now the Fast 6 is going for pole!
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:33 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Wow, Alex Palou hit 235.131 mph on his first lap! 
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:49 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Alex Palou in the Ganassi Honda on pole!
Wow, this has got to be bitterly disappointing to Chevy to lose what should have been their pole today.
Wow, this has got to be bitterly disappointing to Chevy to lose what should have been their pole today.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:54 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Palou using a Red Bull Honda engine
Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:29 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Here are the final 2023 Indy 500 qualifying results.
Chevy got 8 cars in the Fast 12 at the end of Saturday and dominated the Fast 12 qualifying this morning to set Rows 3 and 4. I was sure Chevy was going to get pole. But Alex Palou put in a monster 4 laps in what has to be seen as an upset. I don't think VeeKay and Rosenqvist have what it takes to win yet, but I think anyone else in the Top 10 starters can win. I think I would put Palou, Dixon, and O'Ward as the favorites, with Santino as a dark horse. Santino races great at Indy but I'm not sure the AJ Foyt team can pull it off vs Ganassi or McLaren.
Take a look at Benjamin Pedersen in the middle of the 4th row. His entire field of view is former Indy 500 winners.
Down at the bottom, Team Rahal had a miserable day trying to get their three full-time drivers into the field. Graham Rahal ended up the odd-man out, 30 years after his dad got bumped from the 1993 Indy 500.
Abel Motorsports deserves a lot of recognition. Their Indy 500 effort got pieced together really late so they missed the Indy open test a few weeks ago. So last Wednesday was their first time on track with an unproven car, and RC Enerson put it into the race yesterday without having to go through bump qualifying today. Amazing job by those guys.
2023 Indy 500 Grid
Chevy got 8 cars in the Fast 12 at the end of Saturday and dominated the Fast 12 qualifying this morning to set Rows 3 and 4. I was sure Chevy was going to get pole. But Alex Palou put in a monster 4 laps in what has to be seen as an upset. I don't think VeeKay and Rosenqvist have what it takes to win yet, but I think anyone else in the Top 10 starters can win. I think I would put Palou, Dixon, and O'Ward as the favorites, with Santino as a dark horse. Santino races great at Indy but I'm not sure the AJ Foyt team can pull it off vs Ganassi or McLaren.
Take a look at Benjamin Pedersen in the middle of the 4th row. His entire field of view is former Indy 500 winners.
Down at the bottom, Team Rahal had a miserable day trying to get their three full-time drivers into the field. Graham Rahal ended up the odd-man out, 30 years after his dad got bumped from the 1993 Indy 500.
Abel Motorsports deserves a lot of recognition. Their Indy 500 effort got pieced together really late so they missed the Indy open test a few weeks ago. So last Wednesday was their first time on track with an unproven car, and RC Enerson put it into the race yesterday without having to go through bump qualifying today. Amazing job by those guys.
2023 Indy 500 Grid
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:10 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Can they put Graham in one of the other Rahal cars?
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:40 pm to FightinTigersDammit
The car qualifies as opposed to the driver. So technically yes, Graham could take Legge’s (or anyone else in the field) seat. I doubt he does that though.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:47 pm to EhSeeJay
Looks like a Ganassi vs McLaren shootout. Should be exiting. The Hondas seem to have good race pace. My early favorite is Dixon.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:50 pm to EhSeeJay
Rossi should be entertaining on the radio sitting behind Ferucci, whom he despises
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:52 pm to EhSeeJay
I'm guessing one of the other cars is an 'Indy-only' entry, so it would make some sense to put a driver in who is contesting the entire season. Huge blow to the driver who actually put his/her car in the show, though.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:06 pm to FightinTigersDammit
As always, it comes down to money. If a small team gets a car in the field but sponsorship is light, the owner is probably going to entertain offers. Bobby could put Graham in Katherine Legge's car if her contract doesn't forbid a driver swap, but I'm not sure if he would do that. I could see him trying to get Graham a seat in a one-off entry like Abel Motorsports or Dreyer & Reinbold, but both those teams use Chevy engines, so I don't think Honda would be happy about it.
Doing a little research, I learned that poor Bruno Junqueira was twice replaced, after qualifying for the 2009 and 2011 Indy 500s. Talk about feeling like the whole world is against you. 
https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/auto-racing-digest/indycar/2022indy500substitutes
Doing a little research, I learned that poor Bruno Junqueira was twice replaced, after qualifying for the 2009 and 2011 Indy 500s.
Talk about feeling like the whole world is against you. https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/auto-racing-digest/indycar/2022indy500substitutes
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