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re: Interesting tweet about what loomis asked for
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:39 pm to Midget Death Squad
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:39 pm to Midget Death Squad
Yeah, I agree the 3rd should not have been included in the deal.
I think Loomis was scared. He saw the trade window closing again until next season.
I really think Denver was strongly suggesting that they would just say screw it and sign Demeco Ryan’s for no draft picks compensation and then just pay him $8M instead of $20M.
I think Loomis was scared. He saw the trade window closing again until next season.
I really think Denver was strongly suggesting that they would just say screw it and sign Demeco Ryan’s for no draft picks compensation and then just pay him $8M instead of $20M.
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:49 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Everyone knew by then that Ryans had told Denver he was not interested and then signed with Houston. That had been reported for days.
I really think Denver was strongly suggesting that they would just say screw it and sign Demeco Ryan’s for no draft picks compensation and then just pay him $8M instead of $20M.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:05 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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It is interesting and it was always pretty predictable we’d get screwed here bc we always ran the risk of losing him for nothing.
That's the most important point IMO. Everyone here wanted to "play hard ball" and most likely risk getting nothing. The team is never gonna do that. They need assets. This team is strapped for cap space and doesn't have enough good young players on rookie deals to get through it. We NEED draft picks. In this case, we got some in return for something we were never going to get anything else from. You have to take those opportunities when you get them.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:48 pm to Rand AlThor
Seems that the critical mistake, however, was that SP WANTED Denver.
The only way he gets that is if the Saints and Denver agree on compensation.
The Saints "wanted" compensation for him...we are in rebuilding mode, we're going to suck next year regardless of getting compensation for SP....
My point is the Saints needed to leverage SP's "Want" over our desire to get more picks and see whose "want" was stronger.
Notice all the "SP going to go back to the booth till 24" stories we saw. then hours later "a deal is done" with Denver..this was most likely Payton's agent putting pressure on Loomis through the media.
Negotiating "not to lose" always gets you less than negotiating to "win".
The only way he gets that is if the Saints and Denver agree on compensation.
The Saints "wanted" compensation for him...we are in rebuilding mode, we're going to suck next year regardless of getting compensation for SP....
My point is the Saints needed to leverage SP's "Want" over our desire to get more picks and see whose "want" was stronger.
Notice all the "SP going to go back to the booth till 24" stories we saw. then hours later "a deal is done" with Denver..this was most likely Payton's agent putting pressure on Loomis through the media.
Negotiating "not to lose" always gets you less than negotiating to "win".
Posted on 2/1/23 at 5:25 pm to touchdownjeebus
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I highly doubt the broncos finish better than 29th and if you believe Russ is washed, there is a good chance that pick is somewhere in the middle of the first, even with Payton doing Payton things
Which is why I would have taken the 1st rounder next year like the other reported offer was. Plus next year's draft is slated to be much better than this year's, I'd have loved to have two 1st rounders in that draft, both higher than the 29 we now have in this draft.
I mean what's done is done. At least we got something not terrible in the end, but it still just annoys me we passed up this other offer. If the Broncos pick in the top half of next year's draft it's only going to annoy me even more but part of me is just glad this whole saga is over now.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 5:38 pm to msstate7
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If the broncos had to pay the first compensation, why would Sean wanna take the job? No coach wants to walk into a team that was horrible and no picks too. You have to make it work for 3 parties
This and all the other crap is nonsense.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:21 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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It is interesting and it was always pretty predictable we’d get screwed here bc we always ran the risk of losing him for nothing.
frick it. I would have made him sit. There needs to be a precedent set that if you want another teams coach you are going to have to pay up or they will have to abide by the contract.
What happens when the next decent coach we have gets tired of New Orleans.
One #29 pick isn’t changing the trajectory of this franchise and is more likely to be completely irrelevant.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 8:22 pm
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