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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:11 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35397 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:11 am to
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"She willfully got into the car, said that her rides had left her, and she got in," attorney Ron Haley told FOX 8. "Absolutely not a rape. Listen, this is a tragedy, definitely not a crime."


So you can't be raped if you willingly get into a car. That's one a lot of people get wrong on the bar.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20428 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:11 am to
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Let’s not say kidnapping because that’s not what it was


quote:

GEAUX4

I'm trying to see who's water you're trying to carry here. Is it just playing devils advocate because you're trolling, or are you really just as stupid as you're coming off as.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18319 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:11 am to
"If she didn't want my clients to rape her, the bar shouldn't have let her get so drunk" is quite the defense angle
Posted by GEAUX4
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2018
89 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:11 am to
Yes I must have been there because I’m saying let’s not call it a kidnapping
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9084 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:11 am to
Is Reggie’s a bar filled with cameras where we are likely to see additional footage of events occurring prior to this tragedy?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36158 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:12 am to
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bars selling alcohol to underage drinkers are to blame for the incident.


There is a reason there is a drinking age, and this unfortunate incident demonstrates why.

Bars receive a license to sell alcohol and as part of their license there are strict laws that they are to abide by. When it’s shown that they half arse enforce these laws then they are indeed part of the problem.

This doesn’t remove the responsibility of anyone to obey our rape laws. The four involve can’t use underage drinking as a defense imho.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21379 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:12 am to
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These men absolutely knew what they were doing, and they didn't care. They know she was out of her brain wasted. They are predators, plain and simple.


This.

I’d say tree and rope once found guilty.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84294 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:12 am to
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Would we have the same reaction here if she said yes to the train,


At .319 what she said is irrelevant. And at least one of the POS's already admitting knowing she was in no condition to say yes. Why are you even arguing this?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261452 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:12 am to
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because I’m saying let’s not call it a kidnapping


Unless you were there, you can't.

She can willingly get in a car and still get kidnapped.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22127 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:13 am to
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Would we have the same reaction here if she said yes to the train, they dropped her off in the same complex/subdivision, she made it home, then claimed rape two weeks later only after the video surfaced?


Would there be as much outrage? Most likely not, but the law is still cut and dry when it comes to consent and a BAC that high.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55838 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:14 am to
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quote:
No, I put 100% of the blame on the dudes who raped her.


This is the correct answer.

reggie's absolutely deserves some blame and they will pay

if darren adams hasn't put his money in offshore accounts/crypto, i bet he's looking into it right now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261452 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:14 am to
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There is a reason there is a drinking age, and this unfortunate incident demonstrates why.


She may not have bought one drink from the bar herself.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423365 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:15 am to
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mean, this seems in reality a bit more than a 'college boys' going too far situation and more the ever increasing degeneracy of the college's surroundings.


But I don't think these guys were from the surrounding area of the bars that is very ghetto these days. That's the issue with conflating the two ideas. There is 100% a safety and crime issue in the areas around in tigerland but that doesn't seem to overlap with the criminal actions in the current story.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55838 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:15 am to
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Haley believes the video evidence from inside the car will prove his clients are innocent and that bars selling alcohol to underage drinkers are to blame for the incident.
oh my. that doesn't make sense, even if you read it in good faith
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8891 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:16 am to
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show this wasn't the first time she did something like this


I bet it's not the 1st time those guys did some shite like this.

Underage drinking is a fine...Rape is a felony.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17243 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:17 am to
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Would we have the same reaction here if she said yes to the train, they dropped her off in the same complex/subdivision, she made it home, then claimed rape two weeks later only after the video surfaced?


If we knew she had a .32 BAC, which she did. That’s a very clear level of fricked up, she’s probably pissing on herself at that point.

By the way, how did she not make it home? Where was she dropped off? That alone tells the story, were they just trying to get rid of this drunk girl after raping her? Was she not able to tell them where she lived, which speaks to her state of mind.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35397 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:17 am to
Are they only being charged with rape? Is there any chance of negligent homicide?
Posted by Papercutninja
Member since Feb 2010
1544 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:17 am to
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This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 10:59 am
Posted by gumby123
Member since Dec 2020
37 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:18 am to
Absolute shite legal take
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4574 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:18 am to
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There is a reason there is a drinking age


You know you can enlist in the military at 18 but you can't legally buy cigarettes or beer until you're 21. Care to explain the reasoning why being able to throw your life into battle for politicians fighting for oil requires less maturity than purchasing beer and cigs?
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