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water filter for fluoride, chlorine and calcium

Posted on 10/23/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted by christy007
zachary, louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
201 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 5:22 pm
I’m looking at various filters including under the sink reverse osmosis, inline refrigerator/icemaker, gravity and whole house. Pros or cons on any of these? Anyone done research? Best brands made in usa?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17738 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
You want to filter out chlorine & Fluoride out of your water?
I would not do that it will wreck your icemaker and an ice machine.
Posted by christy007
zachary, louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
201 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:21 pm to
i want to filter the water coming out of my fridge. the ge mwf filter doesn’t filter fluoride. i really don’t use the ice-maker but i am curious to know how an inline filter would wreck it. not questioning you, just trying to understand. thanks
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
3405 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:50 pm to
Just get a big Berkey
Posted by H2O Engineer
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
626 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:57 pm to
Reverse osmosis
Posted by christy007
zachary, louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
201 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:58 pm to
Thanks. I considered Berkey but then I read that they use alumina to remove fluoride and I can't find any information regarding whether or not that puts aluminum in the drinking water. If I could find independent lab results of the water being tested after removing fluoride I would feel better about getting one,
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56101 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 11:44 pm to
Go to filtersfast.com…they have every conceivable filter in lots of variations on filters. For example, I found a half dozen filters to fit my refrigerator and was able to choose exactly what I wanted it to filter out of the water sr\tream.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16947 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 8:16 am to
are you in zachary?

Baton Rouge water company provides water to all of ebr parish and does not supplement the water with fluoride.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 8:35 am to
Propur makes an inline filter that works well for just about everything that can be filtered. I dont think hard elements like calcium can be filtered. I think you need a softener for that.

I use a 3-stage activated carbon filter for the whole house, UV light to deactivate all the chloramines you can't filter out and then a ProPur inline at the fridge to remove the fluoride. It seems to work well for us. I replace the ProPur every 2 years.

RO is nice for under a sink/drinking spigot use but it is very wasteful and you need to add nutrients back in after going through RO. Consider it for very specific use only.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16631 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:52 am to
quote:

does not supplement the water with fluoride.



Probably because it doesn't need to as there is enough naturally occurring.

Filtering out fluoride is dumb anyway.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 12:53 pm to
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Filtering out fluoride is dumb anyway.


It depends. Calcium fluoride is good. Sodium fluoride is a pharmaceutical that has plenty of studies questioning its safety.

Regardless of your views, adding fluoride to the water is forcing a pharmaceutical product on a consumer and giving them very little choice about it. It isn't ethical at any level. People could easily add fluoride to their own water should they want to.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16631 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Calcium fluoride is good. Sodium fluoride is a pharmaceutical that has plenty of studies questioning its safety.


Plenty of bullshite studies. Let me help you out here, fluoride is a halogen and the body doesn't care what kind of halogen it is, it will have an extremely short half-life in the body (about 6 minutes). Calcium, sodium, tin fluorides all work nearly exactly the same as far as the body is concerned, few studies suggest combination of sodium/stannous fluorides being slightly more effective than either alone but really nothing substantive. There is a lot of bullshite public health initiatives over the decades but fluoridation of drinking water isn't one of them. Sodium fluoride is naturally occurring but in a rare mineral, calcium is more common, both are produced in industrial processes as well as stannous fluoride. If you have a healthy, varied diet and you drink coffee or tea regularly then you are getting more fluoride in your diet than from your tap water anyway.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:33 am to
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Plenty of bullshite studies. Let me help you out here, fluoride is a halogen and the body doesn't care what kind of halogen it is, it will have an extremely short half-life in the body (about 6 minutes).


I'd really recommend looking up more recent studies. The data about fluoride calcification at the pineal gland has been well proven at this point. The impacts of this accumulation at the Pineal gland is just now starting to be studied in depth. Regardless, nobody should be ashamed of avoiding the issue. Their body, their choice.
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
1846 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:52 pm to
Reverse osmosis is the cleanest, best tasting water. It's what dialysis clinics provide and recommend for their patients.

And no, you don't need to add anything back into it after filtration.

Brondell makes a great under-sink model and it is not wasteful relative to other manufacturer models. Highly recommend.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24835 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:58 pm to
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Sodium fluoride


Well, it's very toxic in high doses. That's well established.
Posted by christy007
zachary, louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
201 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:56 pm to
thanks. i did not know that. i thought ebr did put fluoride in the water. I am in zachary. though.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11523 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:04 pm to
If you want everything out get RO/DI. You could get a distilling machine but those are $$$. I can't tell the difference in using the RO water in our biology lab and the distilled water in our chem labs. I am talking using it in situations where ppm matter. I could probably run some tests that could find a few ppm of dissolved solids in the RO but you would never know the difference.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17738 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:45 pm to
A quality inline filter will filter out all that you mentioned. My brothers own many many restaurants and everytime they put a great filter on the water system the ice makers shite the bed. The small small amount of chlorine actually helped with the slime and crud kept it in check. Filter out the chlorine nothing will help with that and they Algae you and get slimy quickly and you can clean all you want but that. You home your choice!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16631 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:55 pm to
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I'd really recommend looking up more recent studies.


I'd really recommend you have a discussion with my fiancée (DMD, Ph.D., MDS) about what you think you are reading vs. somebody who really knows this stuff at the cellular/molecular level. There is so much junk being published and that's a problem with the whole "publish or perish" paradigm that is prevalent.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4185 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:51 am to
I’d be careful putting a filter on any line that removes Cl2. The problem you will have is algae or biofilm build up between the filter and the discharge of that line. That Cl2 is in there for a reason. What I recommend is filtering it once it is out of the line and keep that water refrigerated.
I am in the water treatment industry and understand your concerns over the chemicals in the water but the chemicals aren’t the issue, it’s the dosing. It’s critical that a plant has good operators and the plant set up so they can maintain proper chemical dosing. One thing that I do see this industry moving towards is RO filtration at the plant. This basically removes everything from the water, which lowers Cl2 demand, and you have to add back the alkalinity, hardness, pH and etc. Those 3 factors in water are key to minimizing the corrosiveness of the water. Without a certain level of alkalinity, hardness and a stable pH, your fixtures and metal piping Will corrode at a very fast rate.
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