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LSU going for it on 4th down with 3+ left in game
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:02 pm
Tried looking back a couple pages, but didn't see anything on this. What was yalls thoughts on this call? Ended up working out, but seemed a little sketchy to me at the time.
We were up 7 with around 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter and went for it on 4th & 1 from the 27, when we could have gone for the FG and gone up two scores. We made the 4th down, and then ended up kicking a field several plays later from the 29 and made it to go up by 10. This did also end up killing another 1 - 1.5 minutes of clock and two Florida timeouts which is huge in that situation.
But say we don't make it on 4th, then Florida goes down and ties it... I do believe the field goal would have been from the opposite hash with a freshman kicker, so you do have to account for that.
We were up 7 with around 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter and went for it on 4th & 1 from the 27, when we could have gone for the FG and gone up two scores. We made the 4th down, and then ended up kicking a field several plays later from the 29 and made it to go up by 10. This did also end up killing another 1 - 1.5 minutes of clock and two Florida timeouts which is huge in that situation.
But say we don't make it on 4th, then Florida goes down and ties it... I do believe the field goal would have been from the opposite hash with a freshman kicker, so you do have to account for that.
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:04 pm to LSUtigers111
My thought is it was a horrible spot and shouldn’t have even been 4th down
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:05 pm to LSUtigers111
I don't understand your point? The right call to win the game on the road is to get the yard. We had controlled the line of scrimmage all night.
Not every week is the same and you play those decisions based off situations in the game. During that point in the game going for it was the only call.
Not every week is the same and you play those decisions based off situations in the game. During that point in the game going for it was the only call.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:05 pm to LSUtigers111
You had the momentum and we’re moving the ball on the ground.
I was all for it
I was all for it
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:05 pm to LSUtigers111
Easy decision if you have good special teams and a kicker like Cade York. We have neither, so I didn't mind it. But then we're forced to try the field goal after two penalties. It worked out.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:06 pm to LSUtigers111
Only here do people bitch about a good decision
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:06 pm to LSUtigers111
I think the situation is that you call based on how you're playing. If this was the game against Tennessee, I kick based on the offense. The way they played on Saturday? I go for the dagger.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:07 pm to LSUtigers111
The offense was dialed in and Florida had no answer for what LSU was doing offensively. Only self-inflicted wounds stopped the LSU offense. Florida was lucky at that point.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:07 pm to LSUtigers111
I was fully aligned when we trotted all those big bodies out there.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:07 pm to LSUtigers111
"Scared Money Don't Make Money" 
- Billy Napier
- Billy Napier
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:07 pm to LSUtigers111
Kick the football. Not even a question
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:08 pm to LSUtigers111
I trust Williams more than our defense and special teams. You absolutely go for it in that situation.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:15 pm to LSUtigers111
We were pushing the Florida DL back one or two yards on every play. I was all for it.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:23 pm to LSUtigers111
4th and 1 on the 27, going for it was the right call.
Few plays, False start, & a sack later 4th & 14 on the 29, kicking the field goal was the right call.
Few plays, False start, & a sack later 4th & 14 on the 29, kicking the field goal was the right call.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:26 pm to LSUtigers111
Initially I questioned leaving the easy field goal try as well. Then I thought about analytics. In that particular game, the analytics said that we would most likely get that yard, chew up time and still get an opportunity to score either the TD or an easier FG. I was talking to a buddy about how may 4th downs that BK goes for. He made the mad hatter look sane. My buddies response was that the mad hatter did it when nobody else was. Thats the difference. Teams now have analytics calling plays more than traditional sentiment.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:27 pm to LSUtigers111
With our ST play there was a better chance of getting the FG blocked than failing on 4th and 1.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:40 pm to LSUtigers111
I liked the call. We've had kicks blocked before this year, the last thing you want to do is have one blocked and maybe returned for the tying TD (wouldn't have been shocked if Billy went for two)
We had been moving the ball all game. You should be able to get 1 yard to keep the drive going and burn more clock. Which we did.
Back to back false starts was inexcusable. It was 3rd and 2, we could have ended it right there. My butt was puckered when we had to kick a 47 yd FG, luckily the blocking held up and Ramos drilled it. I'd be lying if I wasn't a nervous wreck when we were lining up for it.
We had been moving the ball all game. You should be able to get 1 yard to keep the drive going and burn more clock. Which we did.
Back to back false starts was inexcusable. It was 3rd and 2, we could have ended it right there. My butt was puckered when we had to kick a 47 yd FG, luckily the blocking held up and Ramos drilled it. I'd be lying if I wasn't a nervous wreck when we were lining up for it.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:52 pm to LSUtigers111
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Ended up working out, but seemed a little sketchy to me at the time.
You must've HATED Les Miles.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:01 pm to LSUtigers111
Good call. Even if we miss that field goal, much tougher for Florida to drive down with a score with the deceased time and timeouts used. Lean on your offense that had been playing well.
I also think going for 4th downs in general is good because it sends a good message to your team- Kelly had confidence they would execute, and they did.
I also think going for 4th downs in general is good because it sends a good message to your team- Kelly had confidence they would execute, and they did.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:05 pm to LSUtigers111
Here was my comments on a previous thread yesterday...
I was ok with it once I thought about it a while. The odds of the following choices could be:
run for 1st - 80%
Kick FG - 50% maybe less with the ST fiascos lately
Punt - gets you nothing.
Running for it and getting stuffed was not high risk since the a FG from the 30 would be a 48 yder.
When we finally did kick we had burned a lot more clock and the risk of missing less impactful.
I was ok with it once I thought about it a while. The odds of the following choices could be:
run for 1st - 80%
Kick FG - 50% maybe less with the ST fiascos lately
Punt - gets you nothing.
Running for it and getting stuffed was not high risk since the a FG from the 30 would be a 48 yder.
When we finally did kick we had burned a lot more clock and the risk of missing less impactful.
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