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re: DB Jordan Toles to the portal
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:52 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:52 pm to The Pirate King
Well yeah when he got moved to outside corner the writing was on the wall.
I said he looked lost at safety and he came on here defending himself.
I said he looked lost at safety and he came on here defending himself.
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 6:22 pm to The Pirate King
If you can’t get on the field, you might as well. Best of luck to him.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 6:58 pm to GeorgeWest
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Joe Burrow graduated from Ohio State and moved on. He did not need the transfer portal
At least someone gets it.
It’s comical when other fan bases bring up Burrow because of the transfer portal era.. it’s even worse when our fans do it.
Burrow was a graduate transfer.
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:19 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
You can’t ever compare Bama DBs to LSU DBs. LSU is DBU remember Saivion Smith from 2016 he wasn’t gonna see the field at LSU Bama has no DB depth so he went there bc he would get to play right away. During the Corey Raymond DBU era at lsu you had the most stacked competition at DB if you come to LSU
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:20 pm to The Pirate King
Addition by subtraction. Stiff.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:26 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Joe Burrow graduated from Ohio State and moved on. He did not need the transfer portal.
1. The transfer portal didn’t exist yet when Burrow transferred.
2. There is not really any functional difference between a grad transfer and the “one time exception” for immediate eligibility. They both fall under the same eligibility exception in the NCAA D1 Manual.
In other words, if Joe Burrow transferred in today’s NCAA it would work exactly the same as someone like Toles transferring. He would enter the transfer portal and use his one-time exception to gain immediate eligibility (if prior to the deadline for this season).
I can see the argument that grad transfers are “better” because the player earned a degree first, but it’s purely a matter of personal opinion. The actual rules do not distinguish between grad and undergrad transfers anymore.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:39 pm to lostinbr
quote:
1. The transfer portal didn’t exist yet when Burrow transferred.
2. There is not really any functional difference between a grad transfer and the “one time exception” for immediate eligibility. They both fall under the same eligibility exception in the NCAA D1 Manual.
In other words, if Joe Burrow transferred in today’s NCAA it would work exactly the same as someone like Toles transferring. He would enter the transfer portal and use his one-time exception to gain immediate eligibility (if prior to the deadline for this season).
I can see the argument that grad transfers are “better” because the player earned a degree first, but it’s purely a matter of personal opinion. The actual rules do not distinguish between grad and undergrad transfers anymore.
Have an upvote for being correct.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:00 pm to TigerFanFromBama
quote:
Derrick Davis may be next
I’m one of your upvotes. Was thinking this too.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:08 pm to Chalkywhite84
He had bad coverage skills as a safety so I was thinking the same thing. He was a physical kid, but you have to get to the ball and be good in space for that to matter.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 6:52 am to The Pirate King
Wasn't Toles the one who came in and was going to play basketball for Wade too? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:15 am to TigerFanFromBama
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Yeah kinda like how Joe did, right?
Very different. There is only one QB who plays, and he doesn’t ever need a breather. If a DB is good he will play. Brooks was the sixth DB on that great 2011 team, but he played a lot.
I see LSU82BILL made the same point.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 7:20 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:52 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Welcome to the world of the new college football if you aren’t going to see the field then time to hit the portal.
This is actually the good side of the portal and how it was intended. If a kid isn't playing and has no clear path to playing time, why not try elsewhere?
Teams stealing each other's star players is the bad side.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:05 am to The Pirate King
portal sucks
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:53 am to TheTruthPolice
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David Jones were the last players we got from that area. Both were rated as high as Toles and about the same production we here.
Dude.
David Jones’ production and Barrington Edwards’ production weren’t similar in the least.
Jones was damn good. Are you sure about what you are saying?
Per his bio on lsu sport net.
quote:
SENIOR SEASON (2005) One of the top tight ends in the SEC
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:44 am to GumboPot
Just more proof that in almost every case if a freshman doesn't pop their first year, there's more than likely a reason why. Willie Allen, Kardell Thomas, Toles, Sampah, White. Yeah yeah there's outliers but they are few and far between. If you're gonna have good career odds are you pop in some capacity as a freshman.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:03 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
quote:He is in year three at at corner is behind everybody. They switched him in the spring to try to provide depth, but the guy is behind a FCS transfer who is getting first team reps because Banks and Converse are dealing with some injuries. He's behind Garner, he's behind Raydarius, he's behind Ryan, he's behind Brooks. There is a possibility, slight possibility, that we pull in the best DB class, and that includes the best cornerback class, in the country in 2023. What do you want the man to do?
Welcome to the world of the new college football if you aren’t going to see the field then time to hit the portal.
It makes perfect sense for him to leave if he wants any real chance to play.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:17 pm to LSU82BILL
quote:No it's the same in what we we are saying. Burrow was at Ohio St for 3 years and couldn't see the field, so he left. This is no different than Toles. Burrow could have stayed a year with Haskins at QB and likely started the very next year because Haskins left after only one year starting. People forget that Ohio State had to go get Justin Fields because Burrow left and Haskins left early, early.. That Martell kid was never going to start at Ohio St.
Joe was a QB. There's only one of them on the field at a time and the backup only gets on the field when the starter is injured or in garbage time. That's not the same as being a defensive back where there are 4-6 of them on the field at a time and a rotation of even more than that during a game.
For the life of me I can't understand why people treat Burrow different from other transfers just because he was so good here (lol, it may just be that). Burrow transfered for the same reasons other kids do. Nothing is wrong with normal transfers like this, so there is no reason to try to make one seem like it was done justifiably over the other.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:20 pm to lostinbr
quote:you will never get it over these peoples' heads. Him graduating is no different because there is a one time transfer rule. The morals on this board are really f-ing stupid sometimes.
1. The transfer portal didn’t exist yet when Burrow transferred.
2. There is not really any functional difference between a grad transfer and the “one time exception” for immediate eligibility. They both fall under the same eligibility exception in the NCAA D1 Manual.
In other words, if Joe Burrow transferred in today’s NCAA it would work exactly the same as someone like Toles transferring. He would enter the transfer portal and use his one-time exception to gain immediate eligibility (if prior to the deadline for this season).
I can see the argument that grad transfers are “better” because the player earned a degree first, but it’s purely a matter of personal opinion. The actual rules do not distinguish between grad and undergrad transfers anymore.
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