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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:23 am to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:23 am to
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Last year, 3 players were paid more than $1.0mil from Rounds 11-20. Out of 299 draft picks.
Yep, two high school players in round 11 at 1.5 and 1.25, then Carter Young at 1.3.

When it comes to Johnson specifically his number was clearly much higher than that or someone would have taken him on day 1 and happily paid him that. It’s difficult to see a team being able to save 2.5+ so now it’s a matter of whether he panics and lowers his number, or if he has had an agreement with a team at a lower price the entire time and has been actively throwing others off (hometown Baltimore for a hypothetical).
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:26 am to
It never ceases to amaze me how much Moscona talks out of his arse. I suppose him being affiliated with ESPN though makes it where nobody should be shocked.
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:26 am to
Thank you for those numbers. I was wondering the same thing, but would have never did the research myself.

On that note, here is my quarterly thank you to all of the regulars in here. TD gets a bad rep overall, but this thread is underrated. You guys provide some of the most centralized information regarding baseball recruiting and us purple and gold fans really appreciate it.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:28 am to
Of the players that did not sign in Rds 11-20, this is the breakdown. '0' represents 1 player.


HS 00000000000000000000000000000000
COLLEGE 0000000000000
JUCO 00000
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:29 am to
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Yep, two high school players in round 11 at 1.5 and 1.25, then Carter Young at 1.3.

When it comes to Johnson specifically his number was clearly much higher than that or someone would have taken him on day 1 and happily paid him that. It’s difficult to see a team being able to save 2.5+ so now it’s a matter of whether he panics and lowers his number, or if he has had an agreement with a team at a lower price the entire time and has been actively throwing others off (hometown Baltimore for a hypothetical).


This pretty well sums up my thoughts. Thanks for supplying the numbers guys
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279332 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:32 am to
Yap, we will see how much he really wants to play professionally or not. I think he is well past getting what he originally wanted
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:33 am to
Should we be concerned about Johnson choosing the JUCO route and re-entering next year?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78109 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:34 am to
No idea, guess you cant rule it out, but seems like jay is pretty in tune with his recruits, a kid throwing him off like that seems unlikely
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1494 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:36 am to
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Should we be concerned about Johnson choosing the JUCO route and re-entering next year?


It’s certainly always possible. No way to know what he is thinking though.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8626 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:37 am to
He might, but then the questions around his health that may have lowered his stock this year will be replaced by questions about the level of competition he faced.

Better to come to LSU for a couple years, dominate at the highest level and then remove all doubt and pocket double what you wanted a few years before.

At least thats what my completely biased opinion would be.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
931 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:40 am to
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Should we be concerned about Johnson choosing the JUCO route and re-entering next year?


If he does, imo, it would mean his slide was completely due to teams being worried about his medicals. If that’s the case, you’d probably get a short career out of him anyway.
Posted by banthony1
Member since Jan 2012
112 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:45 am to
If i’m Jay i’m sending him all Crews stuff lol..I know it’s different played positions but the comp from a “highly touted” prospect is there lol
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
2943 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:45 am to
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He’s basically been untouchable in the minors. He’s fine
You're out your fckn mind if you think for one second he'd choose a year in the minors over a college natty
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6320 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:51 am to
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Cold Hard Draft Facts after 2 days and 10 Rounds.
Draft by Position Total Number then how many HS

314 Drafted - (66 High School)

RHP - 121 (29 HS)
LHP - 37 (3 HS)
SS - 49 (20 HS)
1B - 8 (0 HS)
2B- 7 (0 HS)
3B - 17 (2 HS)
OF - 55 (12 HS)


This breakdown is crazy. Only 3 HS LHP drafted.
Posted by lsutgrfan10
Member since Jun 2011
263 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:54 am to
I went thru Rounds 11-20 from last year and a few things stood out.

High School kids
- 23/31 (74%) drafted in R11-16 signed
- 10/35 (28%) drafted in R17-20 signed

JUCO kids
- 26/31 (84%) drafted signed

College kids
- 146/150 (97%) drafted in R11-17 signed
- 44/53 (83%) drafted in R18-20 signed
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2150 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:57 am to
Seems like the teams to keep an eye on today is the Mariners, Mets, Nationals, Astros, and Guardians. They all seem to be in position to have some pool money to go over to meet a players price point in the 11-20 rounds.
Posted by LSUshow
Member since Apr 2021
109 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:59 am to
Johnson will more than likely get drafted in rounds 17 through 20 but will not sign. Several years ago, the Mets drafted Kumar Rocker 10th overall, but he failed his physical and didn't sign. They received an extra pick in the next draft, but they lost pool money allocated for that pick that could have been used for another player. Now, clubs draft unsigned top 100 players with their last few picks as "insurance" just in case something like this happens. Two LSU commits were drafted by the Brewers in last year's draft for this reason.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
28059 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:06 am to
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High School kids
- 23/31 (74%) drafted in R11-16 signed
And even though this number is high, outside of the two 1MM+ mentioned earlier and a few others who got 300-600K, the rest signed for 200K or less and probably never intended to go to school.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
904 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:42 am to
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High School kids
- 23/31 (74%) drafted in R11-16 signed
- 10/35 (28%) drafted in R17-20 signed

So exactly 50% (33/66) of high schoolers drafted on day 3 went to college last year.

Curious to see the rankings on HS kids drafted in rounds 11-16 vs 17-20. I would think for the most part the higher ranked guys are drafted in rounds 17-20, but they’re also committed to schools with better facilities and coaching and are comfortable taking the college route. Not even talking NIL either.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22528 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:59 am to
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You're out your fckn mind if you think for one second he'd choose a year in the minors over a college natty


You seem very confident. What are you basing that off of?
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