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re: LA Legislature to address Teacher Shortage using Retirees earning 50%.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:13 am to boudinman
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:13 am to boudinman
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Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension
Your cluelessness about the current state of retirement benefits outside of the education sector is showing.
Doesn’t matter anyway. I’m fairly sure those “defined benefit” plans are toast if the market has a big correction, like it seems like it will.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:17 am to boudinman
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What retired teacher will want to work a full year for an avg. gross salary of $13.6K?
You need to go back to school, because your reading comprehension is terrible.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:20 am to goofball
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IMO they need to offer competitive pay and then start recruiting out of the bigger midwestern Universities. Poach other state's college graduates to come here somehow. Maybe offer a 5+ year loan payment bonus for them. Advertise that places like Zachary, Prarieville, or Covington offer a good quality of life, solid schools, easy access to gulf coast beaches, and almost no winter weather.
We don't want no yankee liberals teaching our schools!!! We don't like outsiders, stay away!!!
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:21 am to boudinman
So they are trying to fix a teacher shortage, by trying to convince retired people, to work for less than 1/3 of minimum wage ?
Hahahahahaha.
Hahahahahaha.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:21 am to LSUFanHouston
More along the lines of “Top locals are going to want the jobs he is discussing and even new kids out of college won’t want the shite details that will be left over.”
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:34 am to goofball
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Advertise that places like Zachary, Prarieville, or Covington offer a good quality of life, solid schools, easy access to gulf coast beaches, and almost no winter weather.
People in Louisiana do not understand how bad LA education is. Other states outside of basically MS will not be impressed by those areas. They will also be horrified by the state of education across LA when they realize people in LA actually think that is what is considered excellent.
LA’s main problem is that there is not a culture of valuing education in the family structure. It isn’t a money problem it is the typical household truly doesn’t value it. Standards are just so low.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:44 am to Colonel Flagg
A bit of an assumption there. Louisiana has some amazingly shitty schools in shithole parishes, but they have some great schools in great parishes. Problem with LA is that there are more shithole parishes than great parishes.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:02 am to Alex777
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So they are trying to fix a teacher shortage, by trying to convince retired people, to work for less than 1/3 of minimum wage ?
Are you really this stupid?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:05 am to saints5021
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A bit of an assumption there. Louisiana has some amazingly shitty schools in shithole parishes, but they have some great schools in great parishes. Problem with LA is that there are more shithole parishes than great parishes.
EBR has a few good schools and mostly terrible ones. Just like NOLA. Just like Houston. Just like Chicago. Just like Atlanta. Just like Baltimore. Etc.
Urban public schools suck everywhere unless you are in a magnet.
Poor country bumpkin schools suck everywhere.
Where LA falls behind other states is in our suburban school systems. While some are up to par, many are not.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:11 am to LSUFanHouston
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Are you really this stupid?
If you have time to call everyone in this post stupid you should at least have time to explain why.
Are you really that much of an incel ?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:15 am to iBack8569
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Teachers aren't paid for time off.
Sorry… are you saying that teachers do not receive any pay during the summer and only one check in December??
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:25 am to boudinman
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Just an fyi. Classroom Teachers are paid for the number of instructional days taught. 9 months or 180 days. The summers off with pay, are monies they have already worked for and are owed. School boards pay them their 9 months salary over 12 months so as not to owe teachers 3 months of unemployment compensation.
Exactly… and the people who make the same they they do, working all year, with two weeks vacation are the people who laugh at bitching teachers.
Wahh!! Wahhh! I have to deal with pre teens in a classroom with heat and AC!! For 9 whole months every year!!”
Ok. Quit and get you a job in a furniture factory. Sit in the seat of a semi truck and stay on the road 90 percent of the year. Maybe with a concrete construction company. Oooh oooh! Roofer!! All of whom work all 12 months.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:25 am to CleverUserName
Teachers receive pay for 9 months divided over 12 pay periods.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:28 am to Alex777
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If you have time to call everyone in this post stupid you should at least have time to explain why.
Are you really that much of an incel ?
I didn't realize I needed to read the article and teach it to the class.
But...
Right now, a retired teacher can return to the classroom as a teacher and get full teacher pay plus 25% of normal retirement pay.
The bill under discussion would raise that retirement pay to 50% while they are back to work.
No one is asking retired teachers to work for 1/4th or 1/2 pay.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:31 am to CleverUserName
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Ok. Quit and get you a job in a furniture factory. Sit in the seat of a semi truck and stay on the road 90 percent of the year. Maybe with a concrete construction company. Oooh oooh! Roofer!! All of whom work all 12 months
Teachers want to be paid like professionals, as they have earned a college degree.
But they also want to be part of a union, like they are a tradesman.
Teachers want to be paid more... but they don't want to be paid based upon individual effort and results.
I'm willing to pay good teachers 6 figures for 10 months of work, if I can easily fire the crappy ones.
And guess what? Start paying the good ones really well, and magically, you will have more good ones.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:31 am to Alex777
the way to get a lot more retired teachers is to pay retired teachers more into their double dip program.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:40 am to LSUFanHouston
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I didn't realize I needed to read the article and teach it to the class.
Oh my you poor tortured soul. Having to take 1 minute to explain something so simple, instead of using your precious time to call others idiot. :C
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Right now, a retired teacher can return to the classroom as a teacher and get full teacher pay plus 25% of normal retirement pay.
The bill under discussion would raise that retirement pay to 50% while they are back to work.
No one is asking retired teachers to work for 1/4th or 1/2 pay.
There we go, was it so hard ? You can explain stuff without insulting others.
Oh and btw, most people probably didn't read the article because, there isn't much to care about the article. All I read, and I'm gonna bet others here also did, was OP's ''summary'' of what was on the article.
And why did such intellectual sin happen ? because the new is not really that important, and it's nothing more than a thing to laugh a little at.
You are either turly that offended that some people didn't bothered to read an inconsequential new, or you get a kick out of being an asshone in the internet. Anyways, cheers.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:45 am to Bayouhobo
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Teachers receive pay for 9 months divided over 12 pay periods.
Ok. Using this scenario. What is their pay for 9 months work divided into hourly wage. Let’s take a look at that and then contemplate wage disparity. 46 to 60 grand looks a lot better for 9 months work than 12
Google says that there is 2080 work hours in the year.
45,000 / 2080 = 21 dollars an hour. For 12 months work.
Ok. Let’s take 9 months.
2080 * .75 = 1,560 work hours for 9 months.
45,000 / 1,560 = 29 dollars an hour (rounded).
So newer educators are actually earning almost 30 bucks an hour for actual time worked. About the same as Dental Hygienists.
You are quoting contract language of the teachers. I’m quoting real world.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:47 am to boudinman
A teacher once told me that education is the one thing that people don't want to get their money's worth.
The longer I live, the more I see this as true.
The longer I live, the more I see this as true.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:07 pm to boudinman
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This just shows how much Louisiana values its teachers both active and retirees. Poorly paid, low retirement benefits, and not addressing the real issue. Paying teachers a true living wage. They all should walk off the job today and choose another field of work.
It’s more likely a function of a poorly managed retirement fund. The state is paying an amount equal to 22.65% of all teacher’s salaries today to the pension fund to pay down debt.
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