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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:13 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:13 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Russia can continue this war for another year or so, but then the money literally runs out and there's a financial collapse.
I've seen people pointing this out from the start, that the sanctions (even with Putin finding work arounds) are designed to ultimately sink the Russian economy, and soldiers who aren't getting paid are going to stop shooting other soldiers who desert... the military collapses, the various regions of the country stop getting money from Moscow and have to act independently... the country dismantles itself and Moscow can't force it to stay together,
Well, okay, that's smart, I guess... but, like, can we not let millions of Ukrainians die and freeze while that plan is working out? If the plan is to let Putin lose everything instead of letting Ukraine win, can we not let Ukraine lose too much in the process?
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:30 pm to Lee B
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can we not let Ukraine lose too much in the process?
The more help the better
But even if not, and they keep getting the minimum from us and Europe, then Putin still loses.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:50 pm to Lee B
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I've seen people pointing this out from the start, that the sanctions (even with Putin finding work arounds) are designed to ultimately sink the Russian economy
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Well, okay, that's smart, I guess... but, like, can we not let millions of Ukrainians die and freeze while that plan is working out? If the plan is to let Putin lose everything instead of letting Ukraine win, can we not let Ukraine lose too much in the process?
Nope. Jake Sullivan is very worried about escalation.
Seriously, though, Sullivan's plan to slowly bleed Russia dry of money and equipment still has a good chance of working, if the West keeps supporting Ukraine for the next year or so it would likely take to work.
Ukraine would much rather just get the help they need to win (and I would prefer that as well), but Ukraine would also prefer Sullivan's plan to having no help at all, which is the other choice.
But you are correct that a lot of Ukrainians will die in the meantime. That's why I hate it and want to just give Ukraine what they need to win and let them hit Russia with it.
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