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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:39 am to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:39 am to
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If that's the only goal they should have taken the 2022 peace deal


Again, 2 parties have to agree for their to be a peace deal and Russia is on record saying it wasn't signing that deal because it mentioned security guarantees. No matter Ukraines opinion on this matter it was never happening, so there was no peace deal to take

FWIW I do agree with your next post about Russia on the face of it, but I do think Russia has tried and failed to take more territory. The defensive lines in this conflict are truly WWI impressive and the front lines probably won't move too too much with meat wave attacks sadly. But neither side seems ready to throw in the towel so we are where we are.

I do think if the front lines could freeze where they are and allow the countries to go about their way, that would be the best but that proposal has a snowballs chance in hell of being signed by either belligerent right now.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2437 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:59 am to
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Again, 2 parties have to agree for their to be a peace deal and Russia is on record saying it wasn't signing that deal because it mentioned security guarantees. No matter Ukraines opinion on this matter it was never happening, so there was no peace deal to take



I think we are talking about two separate deals.

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FWIW I do agree with your next post about Russia on the face of it, but I do think Russia has tried and failed to take more territory. The defensive lines in this conflict are truly WWI impressive and the front lines probably won't move too too much with meat wave attacks sadly. But neither side seems ready to throw in the towel so we are where we are.

I do think if the front lines could freeze where they are and allow the countries to go about their way, that would be the best but that proposal has a snowballs chance in hell of being signed by either belligerent right now.


Yeah it really is a meat grinder. If Russia is mostly content to sit there it would take a lot of resolve from the west for Ukraine to be able to outlast them and win (whatever definition of that we are using today ITT)
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