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Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
693 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:53 pm to
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The advances in the north are at least partially because local oligarchs laundered western $ through fake contractors and took the loot. Just like many of us in here were saying they were doing


When did we hand them cash?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:56 pm to
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When did we hand them cash?


$26b just between January 2022 and 2023

Not sure about since then

And that’s just what’s on the books since the DoD can do whatever they want and never pass an audit and no one bats and eye.

LINK
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
693 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:00 pm to
I read that link before...

"humanitarian aid," that's not spent for those defenses.

"Government aid" is money to keep their government and civil service operating...

it would seem that stuff has to be accounted for...
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2248 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:02 pm to
You can choose not to believe it despite multiple avenues of evidence if you want to, that’s a common theme around these parts. Free country. For the Ukrainians in here I guess you are kind of free.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9682 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:06 pm to
You enlightening has no light. ZERO it's what you want to believe
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2248 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:07 pm to
Let’s just double highlight the point that Lee B doesn’t know what Cyrillic is
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:09 pm to
You’re just in denial. Nothing out of the ordinary here. I truly hope you are being paid.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
496 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:10 pm to
He's obviously being paid by the word
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9682 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:10 pm to
Dragon's Teeth did nothing to stop any advances from Ukraine.

It was artillery zeroed in on very very deep minefields.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2248 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:17 pm to
The bots are really mad tonight. They provide a link to Russian casualties from www.ukrainerocksRussiaSucks.ua and its gospel, I post the actual Ukrainians saying they are corrupt and “but muh enlightenment”. What a tard
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
693 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:31 pm to
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20 years huh? That must be some crystal ball you have.


I was playing it safe and adding a decade onto most geopolitical experts' prediction of 10 years...

Stratfor's Decade Forecast (2015-2025) put the internal political collapse of Russia from various factors at next year... 2025

Russia
It is unlikely that the Russian Federation will survive in its current form. Russia’s failure to transform its energy revenue into a self-sustaining economy makes it vulnerable to price fluctuations. It has no defense against these market forces. Given the organization of the federation, with revenue flowing to Moscow before being distributed directly or via regional governments, the flow of resources will also vary dramatically. This will lead to a repeat of the Soviet Union’s experience in the 1980s and Russia’s in the 1990s, in which Moscow’s ability to support the national infrastructure declined. In this case, it will cause regions to fend for themselves by forming informal and formal autonomous entities. The economic ties binding the Russian periphery to Moscow will fray.

Historically, the Russians solved such problems via the secret police — the KGB and its successor, the Federal Security Services (FSB). But just as in the 1980s, the secret police will not be able to contain the centrifugal forces pulling regions away from Moscow this decade. In this case, the FSB’s power is weakened by its leadership’s involvement in the national economy. As the economy falters, so does the FSB’s strength. Without the FSB inspiring genuine terror, the fragmentation of the Russian Federation will not be preventable.

To Russia’s west, Poland, Hungary and Romania will seek to recover regions lost to the Russians at various points. They will work to bring Belarus and Ukraine into this fold. In the south, the Russians’ ability to continue controlling the North Caucasus will evaporate, and Central Asia will destabilize. In the northwest, the Karelian region will seek to rejoin Finland. In the Far East, the maritime regions more closely linked to China, Japan and the United States than to Moscow will move independently. Other areas outside of Moscow will not necessarily seek autonomy but will have it thrust upon them. This is the point: There will not be an uprising against Moscow, but Moscow’s withering ability to support and control the Russian Federation will leave a vacuum. What will exist in this vacuum will be the individual fragments of the Russian Federation.

This will create the greatest crisis of the next decade. Russia is the site of a massive nuclear strike force distributed throughout the hinterlands. The decline of Moscow’s power will open the question of who controls those missiles and how their non-use can be guaranteed. This will be a major test for the United States. Washington is the only power able to address the issue, but it will not be able to seize control of the vast numbers of sites militarily and guarantee that no missile is fired in the process. The United States will either have to invent a military solution that is difficult to conceive of now, accept the threat of rogue launches, or try to create a stable and economically viable government in the regions involved to neutralize the missiles over time. It is difficult to imagine how this problem will play out. However, given our forecast on the fragmentation of Russia, it follows that this issue will have to be addressed, likely in the next decade.

The issue in the first half of the decade will be how far the alliance stretching between the Baltic and Black seas will extend. Logically, it should reach Azerbaijan and the Caspian Sea. Whether it does depends on what we have forecast for the Middle East and Turkey.


We will see...

Would you trust this, more?

The Moscow Times: "Russia's Population Decline Hits Record Rate

Do you know how to read a demographic chart?

That narrowing at the bottom means "not very many young people under 30..." and that means a country will not have a workforce in 20 years (especially in one with an especially low life expectancy, where A Russian male has a 1-in-4 chance of dying before he turns 55 years old).



NEWSWEEK: "Russia's Worst Case Scenario Sees Population Drop by 15 Million


Russia's Demographic Crisis

In Russia today, fertility levels are extremely low: less than 1.2 births per woman per lifetime, if current trends continued indefinitely. Yet it is not the low levels of fertility, Eberstadt argued, that makes for Russia's demographic crisis.

The crisis, Eberstadt stated, is due to the great increase in mortality in Russia over the past decade--and the prolonged period of stagnation in life expectancy during the late Soviet era. Over the past forty years, Eberstadt remarked, the Russian Federation has suffered a retrogression in health levels that is unprecedented for any urbanized literate society during times of peace.

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
693 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:41 pm to
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Let’s just double highlight the point that Lee B doesn’t know what Cyrillic is


I'm not from that part of the world (I suspect some of you are sitting in it at the moment) and I didn't look that closely. It's all Greek to me!
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2248 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:51 pm to
I think some of the countries over there use a variant of the same thing. Or maybe it’s all the same? I know Ukraine uses it though
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2621 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:54 pm to
Putin’s Safe Space: Defeating Russia’s Kharkiv Operation Requires Eliminating Russia’s Sanctuary

Current US policy prohibiting Ukraine from using US-provided weapons in the territory of Russia is compromising Kyiv's ability to defend itself against the cross-border invasion near Kharkiv.

by ISW | May 14, 2024, 11:41 am

Current US policy prohibiting Ukraine from using US-provided weapons in the territory of the Russian Federation is severely compromising Ukraine's ability to defend itself against the renewed cross-border invasion Russia has recently launched in Kharkiv Oblast. US policy has effectively created a vast sanctuary in which Russia has been able to amass its ground invasion force and from which it is launching glide bombs and other long-range strike systems in support of its renewed invasion. Whatever the merits of this US policy before the Russian assault on Kharkiv Oblast began, it should be modified immediately to reflect the urgent realities of the current situation.

Defeating Russia’s operation in Kharkiv Oblast requires defeating Russia’s glide bomb threat.

Russia is leveraging Russian airspace as a sanctuary to strike Kharkiv Oblast.

Russian aircraft can strike Kharkiv City indefinitely without ever leaving the sanctuary of Russian airspace.

The Russian Air Force can strike wide swaths of Ukraine uninhibited so long as the Russian Air Force continues to leverage Russia’s airspace sanctuary.

The US should allow Ukraine to strike legitimate military targets in Russia’s rear with US-provided weapons.

Removing Russia’s sanctuary will degrade Russian logistics by forcing Russia to reconfigure rear support areas and logistics nodes to protect them from Ukrainian strikes.

Reevaluating Russia’s sanctuary is not an all or nothing affair.

Neither Russia nor any other state has the right to view its sovereign territory as inviolable in a war of aggression that it has initiated. Establishing the principle that nuclear-armed states can earn such inviolability through threats of escalation encourages other such potential predators to imagine that they, too, can attack with impunity and demand sanctuary in their own territory.

The Kyiv Post
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
693 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Neither Russia nor any other state has the right to view its sovereign territory as inviolable in a war of aggression that it has initiated. Establishing the principle that nuclear-armed states can earn such inviolability through threats of escalation encourages other such potential predators to imagine that they, too, can attack with impunity and demand sanctuary in their own territory.


Amen.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
496 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:22 pm to
That narrowing at the bottom means "not very many young people under 30


Cool...now show me a global chart of the same information. I'll try to read it
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9682 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:44 pm to
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Cool...now show me a global chart of the same information. I'll try to read it


Without putting up a demographics chart. Africa and India are growing with good birth rates, everywhere else not so much. China is worse shape than Russia. France is the most stable in Europe. The US is fairly stable.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9682 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13572 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:59 pm to


You are kidding right, we have given them billions in cash, and the 61 billion is not going for weapons, about 37 billion is, the rest.......

quote:

Ukraine's government faces the prospect of delaying pensions and salaries for public servants if crucial Western financial aid is not approved soon, Deputy Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko told the Financial Times on Wednesday.


Plus 10 or 12 billion for theft.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13572 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Current US policy prohibiting Ukraine from using US-provided weapons in the territory of Russia is compromising Kyiv's ability to defend itself against the cross-border invasion near Kharkiv.


How can you post garbage like this, you guys spent the last 50 pages talking about the strikes in Russia, you think they used those piece of garbage drones they are making in Ukraine
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