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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:32 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:32 am to VolSquatch
quote:u r dum
The war against Russia, who can't even put away an opponent 4 weight classes down from them, is existential to multiple countries that Russia would never invade in the modern day?
“existential”
Russian nuclear weapons pose a threat to the entire world’s existence.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:39 am to soccerfüt
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 07 May 2024
It is likely that around 9,000 personnel are currently serving in pro-Russian Chechen units in Ukraine
Pro-Russian Chechen forces have been fighting in Ukraine since 2014. Additional Chechen formations were dispatched to Ukraine at the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. However, suffering initial heavy losses, Chechen units became largely relegated to conducting rear area security operations and became derided as 'TikTok' troops for their social media antics. Since the withdrawal of Russia's private military company Wagner from the frontlines from May 2023, Chechen units have been pressed back into frontline service.
It is likely that Chechen special forces units bear the brunt of frontline fighting, whilst the bulk of Chechen forces continue to conduct rear area security operations.
Besides providing personnel, Chechnya's other key contribution to Russia's war against Ukraine is in providing training for Russian personnel. The Russian Special Forces University in Gudermes, Chechnya, has provided training for around 42,000 Russian personnel since 2022, according to Chechnya's leadership. However, it is likely personnel only receive up to 10 days training at the university, bringing the effectiveness of the training and institution into doubt.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 07 May 2024
It is likely that around 9,000 personnel are currently serving in pro-Russian Chechen units in Ukraine
Pro-Russian Chechen forces have been fighting in Ukraine since 2014. Additional Chechen formations were dispatched to Ukraine at the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. However, suffering initial heavy losses, Chechen units became largely relegated to conducting rear area security operations and became derided as 'TikTok' troops for their social media antics. Since the withdrawal of Russia's private military company Wagner from the frontlines from May 2023, Chechen units have been pressed back into frontline service.
It is likely that Chechen special forces units bear the brunt of frontline fighting, whilst the bulk of Chechen forces continue to conduct rear area security operations.
Besides providing personnel, Chechnya's other key contribution to Russia's war against Ukraine is in providing training for Russian personnel. The Russian Special Forces University in Gudermes, Chechnya, has provided training for around 42,000 Russian personnel since 2022, according to Chechnya's leadership. However, it is likely personnel only receive up to 10 days training at the university, bringing the effectiveness of the training and institution into doubt.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:48 am to cypher
Ukraine uses naval drones with anti-aircraft missiles
The invaders showed footage of the interception of a Ukrainian naval drone with R-73 missiles that attacked their forces in the Black Sea.
The video was released by the Russian media.
The video shows a Ukrainian naval drone performing maneuvers to avoid a fire from a Russian Ka-29 helicopter flying to intercept it.
An important case in this event is the appearance of a superstructure on board the drone that resembles the Soviet R-73 air-to-air missile.
Militarnyi
The invaders showed footage of the interception of a Ukrainian naval drone with R-73 missiles that attacked their forces in the Black Sea.
The video was released by the Russian media.
The video shows a Ukrainian naval drone performing maneuvers to avoid a fire from a Russian Ka-29 helicopter flying to intercept it.
An important case in this event is the appearance of a superstructure on board the drone that resembles the Soviet R-73 air-to-air missile.
Militarnyi
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:51 am to soccerfüt
quote:
u r dum
“existential”
Russian nuclear weapons pose a threat to the entire world’s existence.
So they should get more involved, which increases the chance they use nukes against the entire world?
u r dum
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:04 am to Lima Whiskey
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The French could send at most, one to two brigades, which they could sustain for about a month or two.
I highly doubt that French, Polish, or any other western troops would be deployed to the combat area. They would be used to increase and improve the training of Ukrainian troops. Contrary to public opinion Ukraine doesn’t have a shortage of bodies. It has over 9 million military age males to draw troops from. Ukraine’s problem is it has maxed out its training capacity and that is preventing it from being able to come up with enough trained soldiers to replace the ones who 2 year term of military service is expiring.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:12 am to VolSquatch
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Direct NATO involvement increases the likelihood that we do get involved directly, and I'm not sure how any reasonable person could argue otherwise.
This is not indicative of NATO involvement, Case closed
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:16 am to VolSquatch
quote:
So they should get more involved, which increases the chance they use nukes against the entire world?
Not really, the redline has been crossed for use of nukes several times over the last 2 years per Russian military doctrine. Use of nukes by Russia means China stops aiding and abetting it with an already collapsing economy. Afterall, Gazprom (state owned) is losing money bigtime. Although, its greatest segment is natural gas, oil also plays a good sized role in both production and refining.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:18 am to CitizenK
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Not really, the redline has been crossed for use of nukes several times over the last 2 years per Russian military doctrine. Use of nukes by Russia means China stops aiding and abetting it with an already collapsing economy. Afterall, Gazprom (state owned) is losing money bigtime. Although, its greatest segment is natural gas, oil also plays a good sized role in both production and refining.
Yes really.
Nukes get used when someone is backed into a corner. The more involved the west gets, the more you're backing Russia into a corner. If nukes start flying Russia isn't worried about China aide or Gazprom profits.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:23 am to VolSquatch
An obese and visibly drugged Steven Seagal struggles to put a sentence together as he's used as a Kremlin propaganda prop to legitimize Putin, likely now his only form of income after destroying his life and career.
"I'm very looking forward to it"
LINK
"I'm very looking forward to it"
LINK
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:30 am to CitizenK
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This is not indicative of NATO involvement, Case closed
NATO countries are, quite literally, increasing their involvement
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:46 am to VolSquatch
So it was an Article 5 when France was in a decades long war in the Sahel?
Got it!
Got it!
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:49 am to CitizenK
You do realize that countries like Poland and France becoming more involved increases the likelihood that Russia does something directly TO those countries, which would initiate Article 5....
Right?
You're bringing up the fricking Sahel as a comparison?
Right?
You're bringing up the fricking Sahel as a comparison?
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:52 am to VolSquatch
So clueless it's unreal.
Russia's MILITARY DOCTRINE is to use nukes whenever its territory is "invaded" Since it claims territory still not yet occupied, it has been invaded by its own doctrine. The several "invasions" by Russian Liberation forces also dictated employment of nukes by its own doctrine.
As far as tactical nukes go, there are no longer trained maneuver military units to take advantage of such a breach, they're all dead, maimed or deserters, plus armor and vehicles radiation certified have all been lost since Feb 2022.
Russia's MILITARY DOCTRINE is to use nukes whenever its territory is "invaded" Since it claims territory still not yet occupied, it has been invaded by its own doctrine. The several "invasions" by Russian Liberation forces also dictated employment of nukes by its own doctrine.
As far as tactical nukes go, there are no longer trained maneuver military units to take advantage of such a breach, they're all dead, maimed or deserters, plus armor and vehicles radiation certified have all been lost since Feb 2022.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:09 am to CitizenK
quote:
So clueless it's unreal.
Well, at least you're somewhat self aware of your own shortcomings.
quote:
Russia's MILITARY DOCTRINE is to use nukes whenever its territory is "invaded" Since it claims territory still not yet occupied, it has been invaded by its own doctrine. The several "invasions" by Russian Liberation forces also dictated employment of nukes by its own doctrine.
Yes, something not happening yet means it will definitely never happen. Sound logic as usual.
A 71 year old leader who has been the target of numerous assassination attempts already and I'm pretty sure by your own admission is a murderous madman (and definitley by the admission of other UkraineBots in this thread) will never use nukes because some document says they should have already per their "doctrine" (that every country uses more as guidelines that rules anyway). And if he is replaced via a coup, assassination, or he just croaks because hes in his 70's and that happens to people at that age, I'm sure the next guy also will definitely NEVER do it
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:15 am to cypher
More redlines than hapless Obama drew in Syria.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:21 am to CitizenK
Seems like we FAFO with the Ukraine NATO membership red line Russia drew in the 90's, per our own national security people
But yeah that's just his justification to invade because he wants to take over Paris and then build Skynet and then the Death Star right before he takes over the spice fields on Arrakis and becomes an omnipotent half-man half-worm with all the collective knowledge of humanity
But yeah that's just his justification to invade because he wants to take over Paris and then build Skynet and then the Death Star right before he takes over the spice fields on Arrakis and becomes an omnipotent half-man half-worm with all the collective knowledge of humanity
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:36 am to VolSquatch
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?????? #?????? Our source in the General Staff said that the breakthrough of the defense line in Donbass led to additional losses, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not able to cover with reserves. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have a growing shortage of manpower due to constant losses at the front. The problem is that the quality of Ukrainian military personnel is constantly declining, who are trained as quickly as possible, without serious training and with low morale, and supplies of equipment will not help reverse this trend.
LINK
The casualty rates are too high for Ukrainian forces to build competence. New units just get ground down and destroyed. So as a whole, the army becomes less capable and less effective over time.
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?????? #?????? Our source at the General Staff said that at headquarters Syrsky asked Zelensky to actively use special police forces to stop the breakthrough in the Avdeevsky direction. The Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have enough reserves to hold the entire front line, and the military is increasingly abandoning positions.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:57 am to VolSquatch
quote:
So they should get more involved, which increases the chance they use nukes against the entire world?
Of course not. Countries should surrender one by one until Russia gets bored with conquering their neighbors.
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